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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:15:00

thing again. that s why i say, again, this is a great part of the process. but if the end result isn t that donald trump and his cronies and his co-conspirators, if they are not removed from government, if they are not barred from ever holding office again, this is just going to be a blip in history. and in 35 years, we won t even see that mug shot in textbooks because we probably won t have a democracy to learn about it anymore. that s how dangerous and serious this is. i think this is one step in the process. nick? i think the most important thing right now is making sure that these cases get to trial immediately, both in georgia and both in the district of columbia. we ve got a hearing set up for monday before judge chutkan. she s going to set a trial date. i m hoping that it s going to be january/february. we also have an issue with the trial date in georgia. we have mr. chesebro asking for a speedy trial. normally with a multi-defendant case like that, that gets tagged

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:16:00

to everybody. the judge at this point has said that at this time, it only relates to mr. chesebro. so the question is whether the d.a. is going to move to have the entire case put on in october or, in some way, this is going to be put over beyond even despite the invocation of the speedy trial act. but under georgia, it s pretty strict that if they don t go at a certain time after he puts in his notice of speedy trial, it s an automatic acquittal. and the problem here is that the d.a. cannot be forced to try this case twice. yeah. just briefly, you re explaining the strategy by some defendants is not necessarily that they really want the fastest trial possible. no, of course not. but they know there s a sanction there that would be normally what we could call a loophole. they re afforded that under the law, so it s not a bad loophole in the eyes of the way the georgia law is written. it s a loophole in the sense

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:19:00

we ve turned this page in the indictment story. prosecutors allege trump was the rico leader, the tip of a criminal conspiracy to overturn the election. we know the defendants have surrendered along with trump for his booking and mug shot. now we don t know who s going to cooperate or turn. we just heard a lawyer talk about how that process could play out. but we do know one republican in georgia, sean still. he s not the first to pin it on the alleged rico leader. take georgia s republican party chair, david schaefer. he said the same thing. some legal experts think we are at the beginning of a process that could involve a lot more of that, whether it s accusing trump, testifying against him, or formally flipping. eyes are on the key defendants we ve been tracking, the lawyers who had direct contact with trump. it s one thing for an elector who s never met him, who s accused of elector fraud, and another thing for one of these people. remember, we ve also seen the video of clark and e

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe Weekend 20240604 11:20:00

it is taking an awfully long time. again, i understand, i understand you gotta build your case. my god, does it really take 27 months now? i just don t understand the delay. it is a really weird system in georgia that they re using where they have the grand jury to look into all of this and go through all the evidence. they make the recommendations, we have to bring in a whole other granary, presumably they don t have to go through as long as of a process with this degree. they can get to a conclusion pretty quickly. everybody else, yes, i m frustrated. if it s going to happen, let it happen. let s get on with it. but i do take georgia s point about the fake electors and flipping others who know. they may be flipping, remember

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Biden won't stop pushing his bogus, cynical narrative of voter suppression

With another election season nearly upon us, President Joe Biden is renewing his bad-faith attacks on conservative states seeking to implement popular, commonsense election integrity policies that make it easy to vote and hard to cheat.

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