and i say this with all sincerity, and i really mean this. that involves our country, our society, you. because you watch the news, you presumably care. doing this in good faith together at a time when so many people operate in bad faith. good faith means a search for justice and accountability. you see why people care about that accountability. it also means respecting this. the person on your screen, whatever you think of him, his politics, or even the face he made, is legally presumed innocent. this is a process of evidence, not hate or emotion. and if he is ultimately acquitted in this or other cases, then we as a society must respect that outcome as well. with that in mind, we have some very special guests. we have nick akerman and jason johnson. nick, your open table here. this is a moment you predicted.
of the timeline, not him. whatever efforts they made, whatever delays, we ve covered some of the doj delays although they ultimately acted, as did this d.a. so that s not on him, and nothing about this process, i don t think legally i mean you re entitled of course to any view you share. that s why we book you. but legally nothing about this process is supposed to interfere with a defendant exercising any right, including political rights, unless and until they re convicted. right. here s the problem with that, ari, and i m not a lawyer, and i don t play one on tv. when you have someone it s like if somebody is a flight risk, right, you re like, hey, we have to make sure this person didn t leave the country. if someone is a danger to overthrowing the country, then you do have to take politics into consideration because the crime he s being investigated for, the crime he has been indicted for not found guilty but indicted for would suggest that if he is not found guilty, he wi
lawyer, former rico prosecutor giuliani, and the booked coup memo author john eastman, and the booked lawyer kenneth chesebro and many other lawyers below him. these are people that are indicted on a criminal conspiracy of racketeering to overturn an election. so they are both indicted for that, which means the system has already established enough evidence to get to this point, to get these mug shots, to get these bookings. but they are also legally presumed innocent because to get to the next point of conviction is a much higher burden of proof. that burden solely on the government of georgia, solely on the prosecutors, not on these individuals. this is a big deal no matter how you slice it. go around the world, and we ve seen already some of the international coverage pouring in. different languages, different places. a big deal for this defendant. a big deal for america. and that s why we begin tonight with what comes next. a big deal for this process, for this defendant, for this
a historic, historic moment in american politics and in american life and for all the worst reasons. fair, for all the worst reasons. a lot of us have returned to that idea, trying to make sense of this, understanding the bad things that are tied to it, like an insurrection and efforts to overthrow the democracy, but not necessarily meaning that that process itself is something to rejoice in. and if you cover the news or you ve been around courtrooms, that s pretty common. crime usually has a lot of victims and people who are suffering, and so when you go down the road of accountability, it s not exactly a parade. we also this week reported on more exclusive tapes of someone linked to these allegations, some of the conduct, but who has not been indicted, roger stone. new footage from the documentary a storm foretold. we were airing this for the very first time in the u.s. it gave new exclusive and
the steal. as we end the week, defendant trump has now been booked or arraigned in all of his cases, 91 charges in 4 separate criminal cases with four pending trials. we re now joined by a former presidential candidate, former dnc chair and governor howard dean. welcome back, sir. thanks, ari. your thoughts on this week. i just showed some of the things we learned. well, we re just at the beginning of this. as one of the lawyers that were on when you previously said. and i do think that democracy is very much now in the hands of a series of courts, some of whom have been corrupted by the federalist society selection process. so we re still in hot water. what we need is joe biden to get re-elected and stop this pretty much sleazy mess that the republican party has become. so we have a very, very long way to go, and i think all these indictments and the trials are only part of it. it s all going to come down to