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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20211212 04:07:00

insurrection in plain sight from trump and his allies nationwide. as a legal expert, i m curious, does it look to you like the stage is being set for republicans to mount stronger legal challenges in 2024 and beyond, that they are doing this in a way that doesn t require a mob storming the capitol because they are doing it behind the scenes in places like georgia and elsewhere? yeah, i think some of it i would describe as setting up a situation that is extra legal or extrajudicial. they are trying to put in boards and commissions in places like georgia where republican officeholders, people who are loyal to the republican party, would essentially have control over the election results. and we saw almost an attempt do this during the last election. you can easily see if those boards are filled with people who are willing to take on any

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20211212 04:05:00

so, too, does georgia governor brian kemp. both of the trump-backed candidates, guess what? they are proponents of the big lie. that s just in one state. stuff like this is happening in swing states all over the country, and all the repetition of the big lie from trump, maga media, elected republicans has only gone on to solidify the miss bebelieve among trump s base and majority of republicans that this election was stolen. we have said this before. according to polling from the prri, 68% of republicans, mostly or completely agree that the election was stolen. 68%. that same poll also finding that among the group of people 39% believe, quote, true american patriots might have to resort to violence in order to save our country. so, yes, trump s coup failed in 2020. i mean, how could it not when

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20211212 01:15:00

involving the former president. congresswoman liz cheney, one of your colleagues, tweeted earlier this week that the committee has interviewed nearly 300 witnesses, said the investigation is firing on all cylinders. she s confident they re going to get the answers they re looking for, but what happens after that? is anyone actually going to be held accountable? should we be focusing not just i get it s important to be looking back on what happened january 6th to prevent it from happening again. but are we putting enough protections in place to prevent it from happening again? that s a great question. so congress doesn t enforce criminal laws. that is the job of the department of justice. it s a job of state and local prosecutors. it s my hope that prosecutors will look at what the january 6th committee turns up and what information the january 6th committee can provide to them. i m a former prosecutor. i work with these various laws. in georgia it is a state crime to interfere in a

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20211212 01:07:00

like georgia and elsewhere? yeah, ayman. i mean, i think some of it i would describe as setting up a situation that s almost extra legal or certainly extra judicial. by which i mean they re trying to put in boards and commissions in places like georgia where republican office holders, people who are loyal to the republican party, would essentially have control over the election results. and we saw almost an attempt to do this during the last election, but you can easily see those boards are sort of filled with people who are willing to take on any kind of ridiculous protest and cancel the election results. the chaos we could have in this country could really be unbelievable. it might not even be necessary for the republicans to turn to court action in order to try to pronounce themselves the winner. yeah, it seems like they re engaging in a preemptive strike on elections and election outcomes by making sure that at

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20211212 04:16:00

criminal laws. that is the job of the department of justice. that s a job of state and local prosecutors. it s my hope that prosecutors will look at what the january 6th committee turns up and what information the january 6th committee can provide to them. i am a former prosecutor. i worked with these various laws. in georgia it is a state crime to interfere in election or cause someone to interfere in an election. that s also a federal crime. my hope is that prosecutors will look at this information. what congress can do is pass laws to help prevent this in the future. that s why we have to pass the freedom to vote achlkt the house passed that. it s before the senate now. and we are working on legislation to fix the electoral college act so state legislators cannot nullify the popular vote in their state. in my open i talked about republicans are basically laying the groundwork to undermine our democracy, possibly for decades to come.

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