would be too costly. putin did not enter wars he thinks he can t win. he only enters wars he can win. we need to communicate that it will be costly, right? the thing is, is it better that he take more land in ukraine as he is currently threatening to do. he could militarily do. is it better, for example, to find a way to sit down and talk about some of these military issues that have been lingering since the end of the cold war. finding a common ground. by the way, this is the job of the united nations, and they are not doing it! maybe in private but i find secretary general antonio guterres, he needs to step it up! good to see you, thank you for joining us this morning. former spokesperson and communication director for the u.s. mission to the united states and former treasury official specializing in sanctions. a grand jury in texas has reportedly indicted 19 austin police officers for their use of force during treatment of
they re throwing everything at the war, the fire hose, the falsehoods, lavrov, putin, all of the state media and all of the fringe media kicking in heavy with crazy stories about biolabs, a laptop showing up with secret plans from nato. all of these things are textbook. disinformation is mad lib. all you do is change the words in between and russia is using all of the old playbooks and it is not working, at least outside russia. they re had phones for a while now and i don t think they re going to like being cut off from the world. like we ve been saying for weeks, it is 2022. he can t win. speaking of anonymous, he can t win on this disinformation campaign. they re being obliterated by the ukrainians. you know, it is so interesting. one of my kids said, i m in a new world here. i go to school and for the first time in school we re all on the same side. yeah. and said that this one person
they re fighting like soldiers of 1941. they re attacking, just like in front, now they don t do any manoeuvrers. so, yeah, they have a lot of people here, a lot of tanks, a lot of their vehicles and techniques. but we re fighting in our land and we protect our families. so it doesn t matter how they fight, we fight like lions and they won t win. this city of a million plus people has emptied out. this civilian, so close to ukrainian lines, just didn t make it. we ve actually come beyond the ukrainian front line, and we know that because look at all the destruction around here, and this whole area s littered with dead russian bodies. these men, in fact, and there are two more over there. there are two more over. there are chechen, they have ids on them. their weapons have
there are a lot of people, tanks, vehicles and techics, but we fight in our land and protect our family. it doesn t matter how they fight. we fight like lions and they won t win. reporter: the russians are making good targets by sticking to the treads, in some cases just running out of gas and sitting there. ukrainians are making good use of the thousands of anti-tank weapons shipped into the country. the head of the defense intelligence agency told congress he had underestimated the ukrainians. i questioned their will to fight. that was a bad assessment on my part because they have fought bravely and honorably and are doing the right thing. reporter: the russians have also lost an estimated 15 to 20 aircraft and 20 to 25 helicopters. most of them hit by missiles fired from the ground. they re trying to make up for it by doubling down on fire power, much of it indiscriminate.
intelligence in the senate just now that russia is using missiles, artillery, multiple rocket launchers, some precision guided weapons against ukrainian apartments, hospitals. it just bears what you ve been seeing on the ground all over. and that the intelligence assessment is putin is not willing to retreat but can t win. long term, that the ukrainian people will not accept the occupation. reporter: exactly. president zelenskyy made that point saying they could end up occupying the whole country. we will never be russian. there will be millgens and millions of deaths is how he described it. and yes, on the ground, we ve been to the northwest edge of the capitol and you ve got to reremember half a million half of the population of the capitol have already left the capitol. they re not going to wait around and see russian troops enter or