speak face to face with zelenskyy until negotiations are done. then somewhat optimistic that ukraine came with some deal points. number one he says we won t try to join nato. 15 years donbas region in particular. we might be talking about few things when it comes to integrity of our borders. that encourages the russians. was that a good tactic on the part of the ukrainians. the ukrainians are showing a path forward if he realizes he can t win. i m sure that he is licking higg wounds. he is thinking more about it going there doesn t accomplish his objectives. it doesn t take over kyiv. it doesn t install regime change in kyiv. that s what he wanted. eastern side of donbas if that s putin s exit if he doesn t have the strength. our job now in the united states is to continue to arm kyiv to the teeth. because that will change the.
what about those areas in the east and their status under any potential deal? also not clear. and remember, from the very beginning, vladimir putin s objective was to force the whole of ukraine back into russia s orbit. will he really give up on that? steve rosenberg, bbc news, moscow. since russia began its invasion of ukraine, the capital kyiv, has been a key target. but its forces have not got past the outskirts of the city. now russia says it will drastically reduce its offensive around the capital. the ukrainian general in charge of defending kyiv has told the bbc that russia is suffering heavy losses and can t win. our international correspondent, orla guerin, sent this report from a front line north of the capital. keeping watch on a critical front line to the north of the capital. the russians now say
brian: it makes everybody unhappy. exactly. brian: he was familiar with the copy. he felt it but he went over. he felt it. brian: it s true. that s what leaders do, brian. leaders feel things and then they go with it. and then oh, their staff rolls it back? that s just, you know, that just shows weakness. it s not good. brian: i hear you. meanwhile, talking about as we look at the map here, general, talking about possibly a korean solution. since he knows he can t win. he is going to try cut ukraine in half and say tough, we re staying. they forced so many people out about 4 million people have left. they will try to cover this in and try to keep it will they be successful? well, i think you know, i think that anything short of russia leaving the ukraine is probably a nonstarter and would only revisit violence later or, you know, more military incursions later.
foolish given what vladimir putin has done, attacked his neighbourfor no good putin has done, attacked his neighbour for no good reason? the fact is, nato enlarged to bring the newly free countries of eastern europe out of the grey zone and into the west. this is not a bad thing, it s a good thing and i m proud of it. daniel, thank you forjoining us. since russia began its invasion of ukraine, the capital kyiv has been a key target. but its forces have not got past the outskirts of the city. now russia says it will drastically reduce its offensive around the capital. the ukrainian general in charge of defending kyiv has told the bbc that russia is suffering heavy losses and can t win. our international correspondent orla guerin sent this report from a key front line north of the capital. ukrainian forces keep watch on a critical front line to the north of the capital. having said it had no plans to invade, russia now says it will drastically reduce attacks around kyiv.
tactical part of the battle. it really depends on convincing putin he can t win. and i think our leaders from all nato countries should be saying directly to vladimir putin, mr. putin, you re not going to win this. you re not winning. get out. get out now. this is the best message we could deliver to putin. not that we re going to not just that we re going to help the ukrainians and so forth, but you can t win. get out. and, you know, he may not like that message. it doesn t it s not a provocative message, it s not a threat, it s an explanation of the existing circumstances and what s lying ahead. he s not going to win. and as long as we continue to support ukraine, these ukrainians are going to fight for their country and they re going to fight very well for it and they re fighting for all of it. i do appreciate it. it does sound like you think it is premature nfor anyone to thik