access to the presidency. you cannot make the assumption. so you can assume there was no quid pro quo and no crime there was the president of ukrain and president trump. and dozens of conversations before and after. you cannot make assumptions i don t have to. i ve read the transcripts. was there any of that in there? yes. did the president of the united states ever say that? gordon sondland is going to say if he sticks by what he said you re making an assumption againx chris. what he said already. if he says what he said already which is and now you coordinate it with what taylor staffer said and you get something you can t disown, he wanted the bidens and didn t want them to get the aid in ukrain. that s what he wanted.
republicans can t disown donald trump he believes this late in the game. right. that goes to the exact problem that paul ryan is having where he wants to simply ignore that donald trump exists while protecting his firewalls in the house and senate. it s very hard. he doesn t want to say i endorse him but at the same time help him at all. republicans and establishment in this country have the most difficult situation i think than anybody s ever seen in politics or politicians. it s incredible. you saw the smile on president obama s face, i m sure he wouldn t tell you he s happy about this for them, it s pretty clear, they re pretty excited. zach wolf, nice to see you this morning. we ll see you in a couple minutes. a little bit of talk about money. the richest americans will see striking differences in their tax bills depending on who gets
this is a problem. i am remembering his father, last time around, all these old news letters from the early 90s came out that had horrible racist stuff in them and his dad wouldn t disown them either. this speaks to a bigger point, which you re raising. the challenge for rand paul is that he had many positions in common with his father. his father did have a big, intense following but was never seen as a main stream, legitimate candidate for president who was going to win. rand paul is trying to do a different project. he is trying to be part of that movement that his father started but also in a way that broadens the appeal and really reaches out. i think he really wants to be president. rand paul is not going to be president. a very tricky tension and difficult project and i think we re seeing here how that is not going to be quite as easy. not easy for a reason. we can give libertarians a history lesson. the intellectual history which ties back into states rights. they can t