jon: president trump upsetting democrats and republicans by claiming again that both white supremacists for what happened in charlottesville this weekend. he spoke yesterday at trump tower up same both sides came ready for a battle in virginia. what about the old left they came charging, as you say, the old right? do they have any semblance of guilt? what about the fact that they came charging with clubs in their hand, swinging clubs? do they have any problem? i think they do. jon: our next guest says donald trump as an outsider president. jame hampton cook joined us now. also author of the burning of the white house. president trump keeps a portrait of andrew jackson in the oval office. is he the closest example of the kind of president represents?
and the facts as they started coming out was very well stated. everybody said his statement was beautiful. if he would have made it sooner that could have been good. i couldn t have made it sooner because i didn t know all of the facts, frankly, people still don t know all of the facts. the first statement was made without knowing what we were seeing. the second statement was made with knowledge, with great knowledge. what about the alt-left that came charging at as you say the alt-right. do have have any semblance of guilt? what about the fact they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? do they have any problem, i think they do. as far as i m concerned that was a horrible, horrible day. wait a minute, i m not finished. i m not finished, fake news. that was a horrible day sir, do you put these protesters i m going to tell you something, i watched it very
counterprotestors who were also in charlottesville last weekend. the alt left, they came charming at the as you say the alt-right. do they have any semblance of guilt? let me ask you this, what about the fact they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? do they have any problem? i think they do. the anti-defamation league tells the new york times there s no such thing as the alt left and that the term was probably made up to create a false equivalent lessons with the alt-right. joining me now and reverend tracey black man, executive minister of justice and witness ministries at the unite church of christ. she was in charlottesville during last weekend s violence. let s start with you. what do you think of the president coming out and using the term alt left to say there were many sides or both sides that were responsible for the
president reasserting his many sides analysis of the violence in charlottesville. define alt-right to me. you define it for me. come on. let s go. senator mccain defined them as the same what about the alt-left that came changing at them? excuse me. what about the alt-left that came charging at the as you say alt-right? do they have any semblance of guilt? let me ask you this. what about the fact they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? do they have any problem? i think they do. so you know, as far as i am concerned, that was a horrible, horrible day wait a minute. i am not finished. i am not finished, fake news. sir that was protesters on the same level as neo-nazis. i will tell you something. i watched those very closely, much more closely than you people watched it. and you have you had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other
neo-nazis and white supremacists in a contentious exchange with the media. it completely contradicted what trump did yesterday. here is president trump today. excuse me. what about the alt left that came charging at the alt right? do they have any semblance of guilt? but, sir, sir let me ask you this. what about the fact they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? do they have any problem? i think they do. but, sir as far as i m concerned, this was a horrible, horrible day. you re not putting these protester o eers on the same le as you re not putting them on the same level as neo-nazis and clans men? i watched this very closely. much more closely than you