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the support of joe manchin. even if he did support it, some others are refusing at this moment to consider exempting it from the filibuster to try to block it, so this is a really fraught moment. if democrats believe they don t have the power to set a nationwide floor of voting rights before 2022, they will lose at least one chamber and then there will be nothing in the ways to go further and further. okay. particularly affecting the growing diverse populations in the sunbelt states. susan, you have written extensively about this issue. what do you think needs to be done at this point to prevent the deterioration of democracy? well, look, one of the issues is we re confronted again and again with what previously were unthinkable actions. so part of the problem is to even understand what we re
overanalyze the last election like generals always fight the last war. yeah. i think the demographic makeup of our electorate just is just pure science, pure numbers is going to look more like barack obama s coalition of the ascendant in 2008 than donald trump s in 2016. yeah, joe, what it comes down to is the distribution the geographic distribution of these voters, right? we know there s an untapped potential voter base for example for democrats to continue to mine in the sunbelt states. we know that suburban moms for example began to shift away from the republican party and that shift was accentuated in the 2018 midterm elections so the question now is these sort of growing cadre of voters where are they located? if the answer is they re located in some of these urban areas or they re located in suburban
that s what we ll never fully know. let s say this is what the electoral map looks like or maybe she gets slightly more because she wins one of the sunbelt states. we ll never know if this is natural tightening, republicans, quote, unquote, coming home or is this a comey effect. is this a motivator for republicans? i think if we see that it s a motivator, then do these states, all of them, go under five points. do we see that that final result is somewhere under 5? i think we see that, then it s not just momentum, it s comey momentum. we know hillary clinton has money. why not spend it and shore up your votes. time is something she does not have a lot of why go to michigan? i think the clinton campaign is nervous obviously and i think they re starting not to trust even their own numbers a little bit. the fact is they haven t spent a lot of time in michigan. michigan caught them off guard during the primaries. bernie sanders. their polling didn t show him
standards. at the same time you do see business interests are very strongly opposed to this kind of thing. it is true they are moving to sunbelt states. it is an enlightened class we need a chamber that understands business, understands workers should have money in their pocket. if you are going to have true social contact workers need to be at the table with enlightened business and other government partners. there has not been last minimum wage hike i don t want to call it a hike last time raised in 2007, went to 2009. will we see it before 2016? we ll see. thank you to katrina, josh and matt. that s all for now. i ll see you back monday noon eastern when i m joined by joy reed, josh smith, boston university professor. andrea mitchell reports is coming up next. [ male announcer ] ah. retirement. sit back, relax,
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