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Transcripts For BBCNEWS Political Thinking with Nick 20240706

whether it s telling people who are struggling to make ends meet that they should learn to shop cheaply and cook for themselves, nurses that have got no need to use a food bank, or refugee charities that they are just as bad as people smugglers. he is lee anderson, former num member, miner, labour councillor, now proud mp for his hometown of ashfield in nottinghamshire, and deputy chairman of. the conservative party. it has been quite a journey. lee anderson, welcome to political thinking. you have not created a controversy for a few weeks now, have you been neutered, have they caged you in this newjob? well, no, two weeks ago when i got thejob i was on a home affairs select committee visit to uruguay on the legalisation of drugs, and then i think the week after we were on recess so this is my first full week back, not been any controversies, i don t think, this week, but i keep looking at my phone for updates to see what i have said and who i have upset. joking apart, do you

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Political Thinking with Nick 20240604 10:33:00

so that s why i suggested to you maybe you have been caged or neutered? absolutely not, i left the blue collar as chair because i have got this new role within the party, rishi is a low tax politician, he has told me that to his face, but he has inherited a rum deal, we ve gone through two years of covid, the war in ukraine, we ve got lots of debt, over £500 billion spent of taxpayers money, we ve got to balance the books, and i m pretty sure and i m confident for next year, i think rishi has just proved with the northern ireland issue. so, for those people, you will know, plenty of tories who actually said, he s a socialist, rishi sunak. i have interviewed tories who say that, and you were a borisjohnson backer, you were a liz truss backer, you now think it is not that you have been neutered, it is that those people got rishi sunak wrong? no, there is that much talent within the labour. nearly said labour party there! within the conservative party, that we have got some really good

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Political Thinking with Nick 20240604 20:43:00

think it probably is and we would see these families and we would patch them up and move them on and think i have done a really good job there, and then fast forward ten years when i working for a labour mp, i m seeing the sons of daughters of the same families have got the same issues, and i m thinking, we ve not solved anything, or we have done is allowed a new generation of young people to come along and have the same problems that their mum and dad had, and that got me thinking, it was one, in our approach, totally wrong. was one, in our approach, totally wront. :, , , wrong. that is interesting, so, the experience wrong. that is interesting, so, the experience of wrong. that is interesting, so, the experience of working wrong. that is interesting, so, the experience of working with - wrong. that is interesting, so, the experience of working with people | experience of working with people who are struggling, you might not like this word, but hard you think a. ., like this word

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Political Thinking with Nick 20240604 20:35:00

debt, over £500 billion of taxpayers money, we ve got to balance the books, and i m pretty sure and i m confident for next year, i think rishi hasjust proved with the northern ireland issue. so, for those people, you will know, plenty of tories who actually said, he s a socialist, rishi sunak, i have interviewed tories who say that, and you were a borisjohnson backer, you wear a liz truss backer, you now think it is not that you have been neutered, it is that those people got rishi sunak wrong? ida. people got rishi sunak wrong? no, there is that people got rishi sunak wrong? iirr, there is that much talent within the labour. within the conservative party, that we have got some really good people and no conservative party. good people and no conservative pa . . , , . good people and no conservative party- that i good people and no conservativel party- that is party. old habits die hard! that is true. party. old habits die hard! that is true- let s party. old habits die hard! th

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