so that's why i suggested to you maybe you have been caged or neutered? absolutely not, i left the blue—collar as chair because i have got this new role within the party, rishi is a low tax politician, he has told me that to his face, but he has inherited a rum deal, we've gone through two years of covid, the war in ukraine, we've got lots of debt, over £500 billion spent of taxpayers�* money, we've got to balance the books, and i'm pretty sure and i'm confident for next year, i think rishi has just proved with the northern ireland issue... so, for those people, you will know, plenty of tories who actually said, he's a socialist, rishi sunak. i have interviewed tories who say that, and you were a borisjohnson backer, you were a liz truss backer, you now think it is not that you have been neutered, it is that those people got rishi sunak wrong? no, there is that much talent within the labour... nearly said labour party there! within the conservative party, that we have got some really good people... old habits die hard!