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Down front here, please. Thanks very much. A fascinating discussion. I write the mitchell report. I want to focus if i can specifically on the jihadi and isis sort of cluster and pose two questions if i can. One is as opposed to far right radicals or neonazis, et cetera. Some of us have attended sessions in this very room on the role of messaging and counternarratives and i would be interested to know particularly as i listen to what angela had to say about how you would do this successfully, im interested to know whether and to what extent you think messaging and counternarratives can have some success in this process of keeping people from stepping over the edge. And then second, if its appropriate or if theres time, im interested to know how you evaluate the considerable work that the saudis do on this issue and how you evaluate that. Okay. So we have a question about the ethicacy of countermessaging and then about the saudis. Obviously there is a long tradition of deradicalization

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