talking about putin s definition of success changing. i think when he went into it ukraine, what he expected was the ukrainian military would fold, that nato would fight amongst itself, and this would be very easy for his military to take kyiv, two do a ridiculous claim to begin with but i think he realises this will be a very long and difficult fight denazify. so perhaps he s coming to understand that this war is not going well, and may be looking for a face saving way out. that might be something along the lines of settling for donbas as an independent region. he may be looking for ways to say he s protected the russian speaking members of ukraine, then call that a victory, and leave. bud members of ukraine, then call that a victory, and leave. victory, and leave. and if that does come to pass. victory, and leave. and if that does come to pass. or victory, and leave. and if that does come to pass, or even victory, and leave. and if that does come to pass, or even if vic