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Transcripts for MSNBC Way Too Early With Jonathan Lemire 20240604 09:08:00

interfering with the election administration here in georgia, but also in questions of how they were muddying the water, shall we say, into the legitimacy of the certification of the results back in washington. so that could open up the subpoena that would be interested in, to a much broader array of georgia lawmakers in the stateside and federal level. the last time we talked about this a couple of weeks ago there was a real sense that this case in georgia might actually pose the greatest legal threat to the former president, and his allies. do we have a sense of what sort of time line we re looking at here? is there a chance that we could see charges even fairly soon? yes, just recently, willis said she would be open to subpoenaing trump herself and hearing testimony from him. she has said the grand jury is seat ford one year, until may, 2023, willis has said that its investigation, its recommendations are going to be seated long before that. though it is important to remember that

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Transcripts for MSNBC Way Too Early With Jonathan Lemire 20240604 09:04:00

likely another one after that full report is out. thompson also weighed in on reports that former president trump hopes a 2024 win would allow him to avoid criminal charges. here s the congressman on that. we re a nation of laws and if a person breaks the law, or is accused of breaking the law, he s not one who can just do what he chooses because he s running for president. so donald trump is just like every other american citizen in this situation. opening arguments are expected today in steve bannon s concept of congress trial. but first, both sides need to narrow down the pool of 22 potential jurors to 14. bannon s on trial for ignoring a subpoena from the january 6th committee. bannon claims he couldn t comply with that spleen because a lawyer for former president

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Transcripts for MSNBC Way Too Early With Jonathan Lemire 20240604 09:05:00

trump told him not to on grounds of executive privilege. the trump appointed judge in that case has ruled against that defense, saying it s not clear that the trump lawyer ever told him not to cooperate. legal experts expect this trial to be finished in a few days. the outcome probably not good for him. meanwhile congressman jodi heist who president trump recruited to run for georgia secretary of state is fighting a subpoena investigating interference in the 2020 presidential election. nbc news reports that hice was initially scheduled to appear before the grand jury today and that appearance was postponed after the fulton county district attorney s danny will is s office on monday agreed to delay the deposition pending the outcome of a july 25th hearing on the case in federal court, according to a court filing. that will determine if hice can move the case to federal court. on january 6th.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Way Too Early With Jonathan Lemire 20240604 09:34:00

and lastly, and briefly, we heard from chairman thompson yesterday, suggesting there could be a couple more hearings, beyond thursday, when the preliminary and then full report come out. have there had been a thought earlier this year that the committee wanted to wrap up before the fall, before the heart of the campaign season, what changed their thinking? well, committee members i ve talked to, the con sense seems to be that they just picked up so much evidence now and they re still seeing more people come forward, that they want to, as was put to me, sprint to the finish, and they don t want to wrap up now when they re on this hot streak, they want to keep on talking to witnesses and look at documents and there is still litigation ongoing and even last friday they heard from another big witness, the former ceo of overstock.com, who could speak to some of these meetings about trump s attempts to overturn the

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:06:00

that is what pushed trump away from it, not that it was also according to the same lawyers, illegal. it s a damning portrait the doj does seem to be facing a little more, however slowly. let s bring in your experts. maya wily is a long time legal analyst for us, and former watergate prosecutor nick akerman is here. welcome to both of you. maya, what does it mean, first the news that they re considering subpoenaing trump? i note the road that would take. and what you see in the wider story here, not about people s opinion of donald trump, not whether they assumed or figured he d be in on all of it, but that the committee has put forward a lot of evidence he did the things i just mentioned? ari, i think the question, is how can the committee not subpoena donald trump? and the reason i put it that way is because of all the evidence

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