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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:37:00

the justice system. there she will hold him accountable. the idea of some ponying donald trump is a little weird as a lawyer to say that you would subpoena the target of a investigation. i think she should, say we are she s freaking out trump already. he s yelling out a few minutes there was a phone call with georgia. this is the guy with who s on the phone with the secretary of state, saying i want my hundreds of thousands of votes, just and bingo! there s crimes here. donald trump has committed crimes, federally, there s no doubt in my mind, but statewide, i think it s a cleaner case. i hope fani willis forgets subpoenaing donald trump. getting a report, and then charge donald trump and we could be a defendant in the trial. that s what i would like to see. to that point, charles, to dean s point, how should concern shouldn t know trumps be concerned and his inner circle? been out that all of them have been subpoenaed? we don t know what kind of

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 04:38:00

howard university, went to work as a prosecutor for 17 years, and we she knows every in and out of the justice system. there she will hold him accountable. the idea of some ponying donald trump is a little weird as a lawyer to say that you would subpoena the target of a investigation. i think she should, say we arekeeping everything out there.- she s freaking out trump already. he s yelling out a few minutes there was a phone call with georgia. this is the guy with who s on the phone with the secretary of state, saying i want my hundreds of thousands of votes, just and bingo! there s crimes here. donald trump has committed crimes, federally, there s no doubt in my mind, but statewide, i think it s a cleaner case. i hope fani willis forgets subpoenaing donald trump. get this grand jury done, get a report, and then charge donald trump and we could be a

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:35:00

need and you re basically asking the person tool cooperate or test them to see if they will lie under oath. and that becomes another problem. jessica, it seems that fani willis s view on subpoenaing trump has evolved. what does that mean in all of this? i think it s a good thing. look, i really hope that we see president trump testifying and i hope that other subpoenas go through because, one thing we know is, and that we know for sure, is that he did pressure election officials, we found that out with the january six committee. when we find even more concerning is that the state legislators are given the right by the constitution to allocate electoral votes. and there are hundreds of state legislators who signed on to this stop the steal, and who went out, including many legislators in the georgia

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 04:36:00

and what you want to do in a case like, this is you want to talk to everybody underneath the former president before you talk to him so that when you do talk to him, you already have the evidence that you think you need and you re basically asking the person to corroborate or test them to see if they will lie under oath. and that becomes another problem. jessica, it seems that fani willis s view on subpoenaing trump has evolved. what does that mean in all of this? i think it s a good thing. look, i really hope that we see president trump testifying and i hope that other subpoenas go through because, one thing we know is, and that we know for sure, is that he did pressure election officials, we found that out with the january six committee. when we find even more concerning is that the state legislators are given the right by the constitution to allocate electoral votes. and there are hundreds of state legislators who signed on to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 18:34:00

them and purger himself. trump, in that instance and potentially this instance, appears quite willing to talk to the committee because he believes he has nothing to hide. he appears to be willing to. the question is, when push comes to shove, and they put the ask out, the question is whether or not he actually will. so if, in fact, he does not accept to be interviewed, will they then subpoena the former president? that s a good question. my source on the committee say they ll discuss this next week when the house is on recess. but they do have a number of calls scheduled. one big one on thursday, they ll have a zoom call, all-members briefing, where they ll discuss this very issue. you know, at this point, they also have to figure out, right, i mean, the political circus that will come with subpoenaing trump. is that really worth it for their investigation? if they only learn and this is the same for every other witness, by the way. the calculus is, is it worth the political circ

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