be able to say what he wants right to the committee because he has been frustrated that there is no one pushing back directly, and thaf avenue had a lot of prime time all to themselves, according to reporting. and on the other hand, as jackie was just laying out, legally speaking, it is pretty dangerous. yes, because saying what trump wants to say may not jive with saying it under oath, and there have been plenty of prosecutors that you and i have talked to on our network who say that any lawyer who would advise him to do that opens him up to the potential of perjury charges at the very least. but look, if you re the committee, you know that they did this acknowledging the fact that it is not likely that trump willingly goes before them and especially behind closed doors, which is the fashion in which they have done so many of these depositions. then you look at the polling on this. and the fact that a new monmouth poll that says roughly six in ten people that they polled say they wa
or ali? ali, you go ahead on that. i feel like i ve not asked pence questions recently. well, look, i think first of all, pence having the response he did, he said it quietly and you and i have watched pence for if you try to get a question to mike pence that he does not want to answer, it is incredible, he will not answer it, he just sees right past you. sorry to interrupt. i will underscore that. you re right. go ahead. the discipline that he has and in his fealty to trump all of these years, that answer was so striking the fact that he is clearly leaving the door open for himself in 2024, and the committee is in discussions to see if he will come forward and they thought they needed to start the clock earlier on trump but there are questions why they didn t start the clock months ago as opposed to the end of the
that benefits everyone in the public, but it is getting to that place that seems really unlikely, quite frankly, and in the course of my conversations with committee members, as they move towards this eventual subpoenaing of the former president, they were very aware of the fact that as they mulled subpoenaing trump, versus subpoenaing pence, that was a very different conversation. pence more likely to come in if subpoenaed. he said as much himself. trump unlikely for the reasons we laid out. despite the fact that it might feel somewhat cathartic to actually be able to do so, because you re right, that is the complaint, that there has been no pushback and a consistent prosecution from the committee. why not pence? we saw him today, it has been all over the news, asked if we support donald trump if he ran again, and pence said no, there might be another candidate that i would support more. why has the committee not handed that invitation to him, that subpoena to him, and say please co
it passed in spite of weeks of protests. new lap permits for borden shun only in cases of incest or. rape or if the fetus has a lethal anomaly. physicians would lose their licenses performing. portions the white house as it s another about a call step by republican legislators to take away women s reproductive rights and freedom input personal health care decisions in the hands of politicians rather than women and their doctors. meanwhile, in wisconsin, donald trump continue to push the big lie that he won the big election declaring this an except a week for his american first movement and marquette candidate that helped defeat. you probably saw that the trump endorsed candidates, like masters, easily won that nomination for the u.s. senate in arizona. terry lake won the nomination for arizona governor, to dixon
earlier, federal grand various subpoenas came for outside attorneys, like giuliani, who advised trump basically trump s yes man. what does it tell you that they re now interested in speaking with the legal counsel against advice to overturn the election? only by subpoenaing trump himself, which would be a very aggressive but possible move. he s not with their call a target. could they be making a more direct hit on him? could he be more directly in the cross hairs? eastman and giuliani, as they as you said, there yes men, they will try to protect trump. cipollone we know what they think about this. we know they think it was abhorrent. we know they think it was a transgression of his constitutional duties. if they can be made to talk, as opposed to eastman and giuliani, what s gonna come out is going to be much more damage. it s possible, we ve been thinking, i ve been thinking.