role to trying to discredit mueller. the long-term question in a lot of people s miends is what happens to mueller. are there going to be stirrings from this white house, trump in particular, to have mueller go away in the way that he made james comey go away. fire him? there have been some conversations. we had trump aides essentially on our air, trump friends say that this has been discussed. that trump was apparently talked out of it. but the problem that trump has is that he has no control over this. ho h he has no control over where this investigation goes. all he has is twitter essentially and to connect with his folks. laura, apparently rod rosenstein, the acting attorney general would be the one that would have to fire mueller. i don t think there s any reason to believe rosenstein will fire him. what the president could do is fire rosenstein and put someone else in place who might be open. i don t think of that is going
released from an interview with the president this morning talking about his overall frustration in dealing with congress. it s a very bureaucratic system. the rules in congress and in particular the rules in the senate are unbelievably archaic and slow moving and in many cases unfair. in many cases you re forced to make deals that are not the deal you would make. you d make a much different kind of a deal you re forced into situations that you hate to be forced into. so betsy, is this part of growing pains or are we haerk th hearings the stirrings of a president that wants to push congress to do something beyond what we saw with the supreme court in terms of changing the way they operate? i think the latter is certainly possible. the reality is that trump has gotten the bigger win by getting rid of the nuclear option when it came to supporting the
trump it is generally not good for donald trump and the focus has been on hillary clinton since the comey letter. that is exactly right and one of the reasons i think this race is not analogous to 2012. some pundits say romney seemed to make a comeback and lost. i think there are some intangibles. one as you point the focus is on hillary clinton. the fbi bomb shell is one. two there is an enthusiasm factor with trump we hear among conservative circles we didn t hear with mitt romney. he is packing rallies to the extent of 20, 30,000 and finally there is this brexit effect we haven t seen since 1980 where people forget ronald reagan was demonized in the same way donald trump was. you had carter coming out and saying he is engaging in stirrings of the hatred and people turned out and they voted for him and they were perhaps afraid to say it. i think there is a lot of intangibles here that don t make it like 2012. do you fear a hitten trump
successful movements, the civil rights movement of the 60s being the obvious example, and they re very cautious about it. they say we re in a moment that has the potential to turn into a movement. that is perhaps starting to turn into a movement. and what they mean by that is we re seeing some of the same sort of small group organizing beyond just thousands of people out in the streets. we re seeing small groups getting together and planning and strategizing. and we re seeing clear, relatively clear specific actionable demands that protesters are asking for for those with the power to give it to them. those are characteristics that are common to successful movements in the past. you saw some kind of stirrings of this in recent years after the death of trayvon martin after the execution of troy davis, but fur whatever reason it didn t kind of cohere into the potential for a movement we re seeing now. one other quick point i want to say on that which i didn t get into in a story. you re
the first fact reported in his the new york times obituary was that he was the influential science adviser to president john f. kennedy. i am not sure any president has had an influential science adviser since then. the president brought dr. wisner with him for the speech off to the audience of scientists you. will now hear some of the speech given 50 years ago today. in it you will hear the stirrings of what will become by the end of the decade the environmental movement in our politics which began with bipartisan support. you will also hear a president of the, united states, say the words, we are all doomed. the president actually says those words. we are all doomed. when he speaks of the challenges, sequence was presenting now that the strongest opposing powers in the world, had atomic bombs.