role to trying to discredit mueller. the long-term question in a lot of people's miends is what happens to mueller. are there going to be stirrings from this white house, trump in particular, to have mueller go away in the way that he made james comey go away. >> fire him? >> there have been some conversations. we had trump aides essentially on our air, trump friends say that this has been discussed. that trump was apparently talked out of it. but the problem that trump has is that he has no control over this. ho h he has no control over where this investigation goes. all he has is twitter essentially and to connect with his folks. >> laura, apparently rod rosenstein, the acting attorney general would be the one that would have to fire mueller. i don't think there's any reason to believe rosenstein will fire him. what the president could do is fire rosenstein and put someone else in place who might be open. i don't think of that is going