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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 07:10:00

circles are a twitter. mimi rocah, to gwen s point, kenneth chesebro, who is one of the co-defendants in this, and in many ways one of the architects of the fake electors plot, has filed for a speedy trial, which is the opposite position, we think, the former president would like to take, which is push this thing as far away from me as possible 2035 is not far enough. what is the meaningful impact of having one defendant say, let me get this done in october and the other saying, 2025? well, as gwen alluded to, and i am sure she is more familiar with how, under georgia law in particular this might play out but it is going to depend on whether first of all, whether that is granted at all. and i understand that georgia is more generous in terms of once a defendant makes a motion for a speedy trial, you get it. but what that means as to whether, then, he is severed off from the other defendants, or whether that means that groups of defendants, or all of them, go together

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:11:00

georgia law in particular this might play out but it is going to depend on whether first of all, whether that is granted at all. and i understand that georgia is more generous in terms of once a defendant makes a motion for a speedy trial, you get it. but what that means as to whether, then, he is severed off from the other defendants, or whether that means that groups of defendants, or all of them, go together i will say that, if he gets to go himself first, and alone, that is an advantage for the other defendants. because they get a preview of their case. of the case now, there aren t a lot of secrets in this case. there are not a lot of unknowns, i should say. but most defendants would like to see witnesses testify before they are testifying against them. so, i am not saying he is doing it for that reason. but it would, in fact, confer a strategic advantage. you have witnesses, than, who have testimony to be

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 07:13:00

meetings, their itineraries, if you will? i think there might be some signs. obviously, if a plea is entered, or a conditional plea is, that is something that would happen have to happen in open court. obviously, we talk a lot about how georgia allows cameras, unless the d. a. or defense team asked that the court be closed for some reason. usually, the plea is entered and the sentence is held until testimony is given and the witness has demonstrated the cooperation that they promised. so, there might be some outward signs. but the interesting thing is, at least in practice, many d. a. s when i defended files a speedy trial to get a reduced sentence to lesser charges or fewer charges. and so, that, at least, was the practice when i was d. a.. we will see how this d. a.

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:09:00

d.a. is making? or is it just, we are starting from scratch on monday, don t infer anything about the judges position vis-à-vis d.a. willis and mr. meadows today? well, i know he has gotten in trouble whenever i ve inferred something a judge would do based on one order. so, i ve learned over 17 years not to do that. i think this judge judge jones in particular is one who can separate the issues. and we will see him do that. we will hold the hearing that needs to be held on monday, and make a decision to act on both sides and present whatever choose to offer. and really quickly, gwen, if the judge decides to move this to federal court, that means he moves all of the indictments the federal court. is that right? that is my understanding. now, there may be various motions to sever, or other things. i know one defendant filed a speedy trial demand in fulton county. and so that, obviously, we ll have an impact on whether all

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 07:09:00

issues. and we will see him do that. we will hold the hearing that needs to be held on monday, and make a decision to act on both sides and present whatever choose to offer. and really quickly, gwen, if the judge decides to move this to federal court, that means he moves all of the indictments the federal court. is that right? that is my understanding. wow. now, there may be various motions to sever, or other things. i know one defendant filed a speedy trial demand in fulton county. and so that, obviously, will have an impact on whether all 19 will be tried within those speedy trial guidelines, or whether there will be other severances or breaking the case down into bite sized pieces. so, many of us who track georgia law are debating about this behind the scenes, and we are waiting to see what comes out of the hearing on monday as well as the speedy trial motion. i am sure that georgia legal

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