seen hints of that on the campaign trail. the deck is still stacked for those at the top. people are not getting a fair shake. the 25 rich et hedge fund managers make more together than all kindergarten teachers in america. the deck is stacked for those at the top, and i am running a campaign that s very clearly stating we want to reshuffle that deck. you could call it the bernie effect. and we could be hearing a lot more of it. joining me now from burlington vermont, is msnbc s steve karnacky and also with us the boston globe s political editor sheer center and democratic strategist jamal. thanks for all being here. thanks reverend. steve, were you there for the announcement. what kind of response did he get? like you said his hometown
between bernie sanders and hillary clinton than there is between hillary clinton and martin o malley. jamal, the impact of bernie sanders? he divides up the opposition and keeps hillary clinton from having to have a head-to-head contest and allows her to come through with 50%, 55% of the vote or 48% of the vote and win all these caw south carolinaes and primaries. steve karnacky shira center and jamal simmons, thank you for your time tonight. thanks. make sure you watch steve on up right here at 8:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. still ahead, first lady michelle obama gets personal again talking to graduates. it s becoming a trend. is there a political fauche ahead for her. and why this photo for instance side the white house is going viral. please stay with us.
i mean the group you come from does not necessarily mean the group you fight for and hillary clinton comes from more middle class family has made a lot of money since then. think about john f. kennedy and frankling delano roosevelt. had presidents in the past who fought very hard for people struggling to get into the middle class and those already there to stay there so i think that he might not get that one quite right when it comes time for the electorate to engage. let s go around the horn. steve, how much impact will bernie sanders have? i think bernie sanders is most likely of any of the non-hillary candidates on the democratic side to give hillary fits in this democratic proses. shira, how much impact will he have? i think he could bring hillary clinton to the left. it s possible he places third or even second in iowa and new hampshire. i m with jamal. i think the greatest impact he ll have on the race is on martin o malley because there s a bigger ideological difference
consider the context of the decision. listen to this. it s been a bad couple of years for the nfl with bountygate, with the bullying scandal, with domestic violence and with child abuse and the way the nhl has ruled in some of these cases was sometimes perceived as random and sometimes even perceived as incompetent and roger goodell wanted to make sure he got this right? do you think he got this right? i think it s excessive, al. i think that one game would have been plenty. as jim pointed out the weight of the football doesn t affect how a quarterback plays, and i don t think this affected the outcome of any game, i don t think scores would have been different if the footballs were had a higher psi, so i do think it s excessive, and i think we probably will see a reduction when when the appeal goes on. all right. steve karnacky jim fassel and
msnbc s steve karnacky former new york giant head coach jim fassel and joe sullivan sports editor of the boston globe. thank you all for being here. good. sir. steve, you were on that ted wells call. what struck you as you were listening to ted wells? well ted welts basically laid out the story how he got from launching this investigation to coming to the conclusions that he came to last week that set this whole penalty phase in motion. the timing no coincidence because when the punishment came down last night the owner of the patriots bob kraft, the agent for tom brady, don yee, both indignant about what was done in terms of punishment and he said in response to this and basically what ted well said in this call is the league, when this first began and received a complaint from the indianapolis colts about potentially deflated