anything. it s just like, you know, i can t even leave the message. so i called the irvine police. and then and what did they say? oh, she s 23? okay. well, she might be in drinking at the bar, or like you know, it s excuse me? no, said june. not her daughter. julie was always quick to respond to her texts or phone calls. across town, about 20 miles away from the kibuishis, sam s parents, steve and raquel herr, also worried because they couldn t get hold of sam. i thought it was a little odd that when i called his phone, it went directly to the answering service. on saturday. steve decided to check on his son. so i drove down there and knocked on his door. no answer. and i had the key to his apartment. so i walked in there, and i looked in to turn on the light. the living room looked fine and i said, okay.
trying to do something to him and and try to get him. and the reason why his body wasn t there is because he was off running away from these people. miles feared sam was in danger. maybe sam s mom and dad, too. i wanted to make sure nothing happened to steve and raquel. so i went to their house and, you know, during the night i spent there, you know, with my gun by my side just to make sure. i slept on their couch by their door. detectives needed to find sam and fast, says orange county homicide prosecutor matt murphy. you got a dead woman in his apartment. he s missing. and then you factor in afghanistan. and you start thinking, okay, he s a trained killer after he d been accused of this before. and you think, okay, this guy is potentially very dangerous. he s out there on the street. then came a break. sam s atm card was being used. $400 withdrawn about 17 miles north of the crime scene. and security cameras captured the person who was waiting as the cash came out. it was
murders. steve herr, sam s dad, remembers when police showed up at his door. they came in, and they said, sam s been found. he was murdered. and for whatever reason, i said i don t know what made me say this. at least he wasn t dismembered. okay? the next morning, i get a call from the costa mesa police. he says, steve, before you find out, we just want to let you know sam was dismembered. that s when i just lost it. the very next day, sam herr would have turned 27 years old. sam s friend, ruben. you know, the night that it was his birthday, his father s praying to find his head. sorry. so it s very upsetting, you know. when police told you they thought that julie had been killed essentially to cover up a different murder, sam s murder, what did you think? it s probably the pain is