hear the president and sean spicer and others talk about, is obviously the every time that they test a weapon in north korea that s one step closer they get potentially to being a direct threat to the united states, kersten. kris janning live from the white house thank you appreciate it. and i want to bring the panel steve clemmens msnbc contributor and nile stanek ij white house clom it hill frmts hue huest nbc political salem radio network thanks for being here. steve i want to start with you and set the scene here and the stakes. you have north korean officials essentially warning that we could see a nuclear war rebuking break out on the korean peninsula. what do you make of what you ve seen from north korea in the past several day, how serious is the threat right nowen a the saber rattling. flamboyant bluster from the north korean leader is nothing new. that s part of the dance that we ve gone through is north
actual photograph or first-hand report from a u.s. asset they will not confirm anything. there are celebrations in the city of sirte this morning. it has been quite the last six months if you think about when all this started. i want to bring in two people here that are great experts on this stuff. steve clemmens and robin wright, from the woodrow wilson center. rob robin, you have sat face to face with moamar khaddafy. you were telling me you remember interviewing him back in 1980. this is a man who took power when richard nixon was president of the united states. i note the a.p. report, past reports, proven incorrect. nobody wants to jump to conclusion here, but.
well he was forced out of power in tripoli. getting him was a long process of liberating libya. this is an important step whether he was captured or killed. the mere fact that they managed to take over his hometown indicates that libya is once again beginning to be whole. there are now some very small pockets but the abilityer of them to hold out much longer i think will be very difficult. this is the kind of psychological moment where the libyan people will begin to peel they can move ahead. steve, this morning we heard reports that the libyan transitional forces felt they had taken control of sirte. we re also seeing a report that perhaps the death happen ed aftr nato struck the convoy.