is not enough to go it and celebrate, as he said he would do if they found that. well, no. he wasn t asking to find voter fraud on a scale that would impact the election results. it appears, according to:00 according to this testimony from christina bobb that he wanted to be able to use that to sow doubt about the election results. i m wondering what you think about this, john dean? what kind of window does this offer? i think david is right on this one. graham was toying with this, not sure what to do. he had no solid evidence to go public with, and he was looking he wanted to help the cause. and he did help the cause. he didn t actually get what he needed, but he still started pounding the drum. this is so much information that s coming at us from these. it s actually like drinking out of several water hoses simultaneously. i look forward to studying the
gram interview because he wasn t particularly cooperative, and this wasn t really a session. this is hearsay that we re dealing with. somebody that was called to give much more detailed testimony. that s why we re emphasizing this was testimony given by someone else. but i will say it also corroborates what i m told by sources that many republicans on both sides on the house and in the senate, they were trying to they were asking trump s team, look, give us something to verify the claims that you re making publicly. now, their motivations for doing so, they could have scattered. but that was certainly in line with what was going on behind the scenes. we also learned former first lady melania trump didn t trust the people in her husband s circle and what more can you tell us about that? this is interesting. again, it s not testimony from melania trump, but it is
something symbolic that i can go out there and talk about and use in donald trump s favor. yeah so, i can continue to sow doubt about the election results. sara murray, stay with us. i want to bring in cnn contributor john dean, former white house council for president nixon and cnn political contributor david urban, a republican strategist and former trump campaign adviser. all right, so david, you heard sara lay it out. we all know the former president and his allies were obsessed with finding voter fraud. but now we re learning more about what was conspiring behind the scenes with a sitting senator lindsey graham saying according to this testimony, give me five dead voters that i can go out and champion. your reaction. so what i think lindsey graham is saying is give me something credible. give me something plausible that i can go out and take to people. not some scatter brained notions that are being flown around the internet. lindsey graham is looking for proof, what other peo