not just from staff but the public is the greater priority than a statutory is the greater priority than a statutory body which will take some yet to statutory body which will take some yet to get statutory body which will take some yet to get off the ground. is statutory body which will take some yet to get off the ground. yet to get off the ground. is there a question yet to get off the ground. is there a question over yet to get off the ground. is there a question over adding yet to get off the ground. is there a question over adding red - yet to get off the ground. is there a question over adding red tape . yet to get off the ground. is there l a question over adding red tape and cost, would that be a concern you would be worried about?- cost, would that be a concern you would be worried about? there is, i think regulation would be worried about? there is, i think regulation for would be worried about? there is, i think regulation for managers i would be worried abo
consideration of statutory regulation. it s not something to be fearful regulation. it s not something to be fearful of. regulation. it s not something to be fearful of, it would all be bureaucratic, regulation is. there are lots bureaucratic, regulation is. there are lots of bureaucratic, regulation is. there are lots of problems with what standards you set but they could be overcome standards you set but they could be overcome. what i am concerned about particularly overcome. what i am concerned about particularly for families of victims is we particularly for families of victims is we are particularly for families of victims is we are not saying that this is the answer is we are not saying that this is the answer to what happened at the countess the answer to what happened at the countess of chester, there are so many countess of chester, there are so many other countess of chester, there are so many other factors in play. perhaps the countess many other factors
difference to an instance like that. it s difference to an instance like that. it s worth difference to an instance like that. it s worth pointing out that the nurse it s worth pointing out that the nurse director, management figures in that nurse director, management figures in that hospital were regulated by a statutory in that hospital were regulated by a statutory body for their management duties, statutory body for their management duties, not statutory body for their management duties, notjust their statutory body for their management duties, not just their clinical ones duties, not just their clinical ones the duties, not just their clinical ones. the board will have had an annual ones. the board will have had an annual fitness test and the cqc would annual fitness test and the cqc would have had to go into the trust to inspect would have had to go into the trust to inspect it. i don t want people to inspect it. i don t want people to get to inspect it. i don
raise concerns, there would be greater emphasis on the manager to take patient safety concerns more seriously, do proper investigations and deal with them in a way that i think hasn t happened at the countess of chester. this think hasn t happened at the countess of chester. this isn t the first time that countess of chester. this isn t the first time that calls countess of chester. this isn t the first time that calls have - countess of chester. this isn t the first time that calls have been i countess of chester. this isn t the l first time that calls have been made for some sort of regulation. one of the criticism that is made is it is another introduction of red tape, potentially costly, when we know that the nhs is really stretched at the moment, it is really what the organisation needs? i the moment, it is really what the organisation needs? the moment, it is really what the organisation needs? i think we have seen enough organisation needs? i think we have seen enough exa
seen this troubles of organisations that recur with troubled organisations before, it is not the professionalism, regulation does not touch professionalism, regulation does not touch the professionalism, regulation does not touch the things about the management and culture because it is too remote management and culture because it is too remote from day to day operation of health too remote from day to day operation of health services. it s really staff, of health services. it s really staff, local managers and the public and families of patients who have the answer to making sure things like this, the answer to making sure things like this, may be a lower order of seriousness, don t happen, orare addressed seriousness, don t happen, orare addressed quickly. so seriousness, don t happen, or are addressed quickly. addressed quickly. so ust to be clear, if addressed quickly. so ust to be ceanl if a addressed quickly. so ust to be clear, if a regulatory i addressed quick