foundation, her daughter, of course. there s nothing wrong with that, of course the issue is the classified information flowing through those channels. oh, no. it s that too. under the regulations that were set forth before and while she was secretary of state. work e mail was supposed to be on the state.gov website and supposed to be publicly available through the website. but the fact that there was classified information going back and forth compounds the misconduct. chris, looking forward, how long before we just hear hillary clinton say i m sorry, i shouldn t have done it. or will we ever hear her say that. shy just did her third interview with andrea mitchell, or the third one since she announced she was running. she said she was sorry she
the unclassified system, they would go through the same process. so, again, it s confusing and that s why i m trying to do a better job of explaining it to the american people. you have said that colin powell did the same thing. he actually had a personal e-mail and a state.gov. i don t think there s any precedent for someone just relying on a personal system at your level of government. i can t speak for him. that s been portrayed differently depending on how it s considered but this was fully above board, people knew i was using a personal e-mail. i did it for convenience. i sent e-mails i thought were work related to people s dot-gov accounts. the vast majority were captured by the system. and now we ve made sure that
way of handling it. this issue come up surpris g surprisingly often because there is an administrative problem where people do these things and their security officers summon them and warn them and issue repry mandz and it goes in their file. it s a serious personnel administrative problem. my only point is i couldn t find a case where this kind of activity had been prosecuted. and that s just worth noting as we assemble our clinton e-mail and one more thing, joe. legally, there s no difference between her using private server and if she used state.gov which is also not a classified system. the idea is it would have been fun if she used state.gov, not legally. clinton s former chief of staff testified for eight hours yesterday about this in front of the benghazi committee behind closed doors. miss mills answered all of the committee s questions. the dialogue was professional
straight to breaking news here on msnbc, new information on hillary clinton s private server and e-mails. we were just talking about there. let s go to nbc news justice correspond pete williams on the phone with us right now. pete, what are you learning? i m at the federal courthouse in washington where there s been a wrinkle in this controversy. a judge has ordered the state department to seek information from the fbi in its investigation of the clinton e-mail server and thumb drives. this is a side issue in the e-mail controversy. this involves a freedom of information act request for information or documents about the government s contract that allowed a top clinton aide to do outside consulting work while she was at the state department. the judge has today directed the state department to notify the fbi that it has to tell the state department if fbi investigates find anything on the clinton e-mail server or the
thumb drives that relate to the work arrangement. the state department has told judicial watch, the legal watchdog group that wants this information and filed the freedom of information act request, that it has searched all the paper copies, the 55,000 pages turned over by former secretary clinton and found nothing. now the judge says, though, that the state department needs to know whether the fbi finds anything that wasn t in those pages that was on the server or the thumb drive. so it s not about the classification issue which has been the big issue involving the e-mails. nonetheless it is a wrinkle in the case because now the judge is telling state it has to ask the fbi how it s doing. pete williams with the very latest breaking news there on the e-mail controversy. a separate issue as you were describing related to the