this. i just want to get that video up because it was relating to what you were talking about. absolutely. jeffrey clark is to my mind neck and neck with another figure we learned more about recently, john eastman, who was an outside lawyer, who engaged in really abhorrent conduct to try to turn the election to donald trump. these invocations of privilege as far as i can tell are completely silly. there are other cases in which donald trump has asserted privilege which don t carry a lot of weight and a win the has been able to steve bannon has been able to argue or has argued that because donald trump has asserted privilege he gets the cover of that privilege. in the jeffrey clark situation donald trump and his lawyers themselves have not asserted privilege, attorney-client privilege with respect to jeffrey clark. and jeffrey clark s superiors up to and including the acting attorney general jeffrey rosen did not invoke privilege, have testified before this very committee. so it s a
well, it s interesting that he has retained a credible lawyer whom he is likely paying well. it makes it sound like he s not going to just do the steve bannon defiant route. he doesn t mean that they are engaging and that they intend to actually continue to engage. i have listened carefully to congressman thompson and kang monday kinzinger responses when they have been asked about what patel and scavino are doing with the committee. what they say is they are engaging. we don t have patience forever but we wanted to make a good faith effort. at this point, they continue, quote, to engage with the committee. so their depositions were delayed and they didn t get the steve bannon treatment. it doesn t necessarily mean they are not going to ultimately stall use this as a stalling tactic and then also defy the
wait it out. maybe i ll go ahead and violate this law. maybe i ll go to jail and i ll just take it because he s operating under the same crazy fox news world assumption that he can just wait it out, thug it out, go to jail and donald trump will magically come back into power or come back into power because they steal the election and pardon him. if he s thinking that, would he be crazy to think that? you know, well, the short answer is all of this is a stalling tactic. i mean, as you said, there is no executive privilege here and there is no defense for steve bannon, but the point is they re trying to run out the clock and this will go through a judicial process and the wheels of justice can turn too slowly when we have the kind of election cycle we re looking at right now and that is exactly what they re banking on. they re not banking on legal arguments that hold any water. frankly, they re just banking on
steve bannon, mark meadows, dan scavino, kash patel. it s not just about the days of the insurrection. it s about the days prior. all of the pressure points. that s what the committee clearly wants to find out. because those are the scenes they reference from our book. laura, you re shaking your head in agreement here. i m wondering the stalling tactic that they re doing. so the select committee can t get there, can t serve them and they re just not complying. is there any way to expedite this through the courts? well, you know, the idea of being able to have, unlike last time when they had the blueprint of how to thumb your nose at a congressional subpoena through protracted litigation, they had the benefit of having a department of justice led by a trump appointee, several trump appointees, by the way. now you have a justice department that s already talked about not wanting to assert executive privilege, an administration who says they re
re-elect president trump. steve bannon, mark meadows, dan scavino, kash patel. it s not just about the days of the insurrection. it s about the days prior. all of the pressure points. that s what the committee clearly wants to find out. because those are the scenes they reference from our book. laura, you re shaking your head in agreement here. i m wondering the stalling tactic that they re doing. so the select committee can t get there, can t serve them and they re just not complying. is there any way to expedite this through the courts? well, you know, the idea of being able to have, unlike last time when they had the blueprint of how to thumb your nose at a congressional subpoena through protracted litigation, they had the bechbt benefit of having a department of justice led by a trump appointee, several trump appointees, by the way. now you have a justice department that s already talked about not wanting to assert executive privilege, an administration who says they re not goi