values are not the same as the president s values or if it s pushing back as we ve seen others do. they have to, because this president, to your point, is really creating his own space and it s only limited to one person, and that s him. and so i think that you re going to find a lot of folks on the hill, you re going to certainly see it in the various agencies having to carve that space out to get some things done and hopefully bring the president into that conversation in a way that he can sign off on it ultimately. and that s going to be a real challenge. by the way, and i m going not going to play another chip because we re running low on time. peter heart asked that same focus group on a number of different officials, mike pence, paul ryan. i m just going to single out the tough on squlon kelly because the group in general, strong strong, reliable, baby-sitter, finger in a dike. but that s all a bunch of people feeling good about it, though
feeling as if there s someone there. the guard rails are up. right. and people are invested in kelly this sense that he was going to come in and right the ship and he come ports himself in a way that we expect someone in the white house at that level to behave. but there s also this rlsization, there was sort of temp erg the expectations that there s only so much he can do. there was that famous quote you can go in and be focused on the chief part or the staff part when you go into that position and most successful people focus on the staff part. and this realization that john kelly is not going to manage donald trump. you get the sense john kelly went in there to say it s my job to help run the government. right. and i m not going to try to manage him anymore. there s no win on that. and kelly, tillerson and mattis are all trying to manage the government and not him. it is stunning that the secretary of defense said i m not going to do that. it s stunning that the secretary