values are not the same as the president's values or if it's pushing back as we've seen others do. they have to, because this president, to your point, is really creating his own space and it's only limited to one person, and that's him. and so i think that you're going to find a lot of folks on the hill, you're going to certainly see it in the various agencies having to carve that space out to get some things done and hopefully bring the president into that conversation in a way that he can sign off on it ultimately. and that's going to be a real challenge. >> by the way, and i'm going not going to play another chip because we're running low on time. peter heart asked that same focus group on a number of different officials, mike pence, paul ryan. i'm just going to single out the tough on squlon kelly because the group in general, strong strong, reliable, baby-sitter, finger in a dike. but that's all a bunch of people feeling good about it, though