i think that jeffrey and carl are absolutely right. there s going to be a big effort to flip whoever it is whose indicted. but jeff tu bin, if it is, you know, some past crime, financial crime from years ago, is it you know, david is saying, you know, someone at the white house will say, look, that s nothing about collusion. this is reaching back in history years. is it possible those kind of charges are brought to your point, in order to get them to flip and kind of a smaller fish, charging them with something from the past to get them to flip on what they may know? right. people flip because they know they re going to be convicted and looking at serious jail time. it doesn t necessarily mean they have to flip on precisely the issue that they will testify against higher ups. i mean, i know we are in a position here of spk lating, and that s not that s not ideal.