And get ready. Next week we reveal the top ten cnn heroes of 2017. Thats it for us tonight. Thanks for watching. Good evening. We have breaking news just ahead. A new push by the president himself to speed up the release of unpublished Hillary Clinton state department emails. It caps a week of at what appear to be efforts from shipping focus from president Trumps Campaign on the woman they defeated. Today the president started with a tweet making this claim it is now commonly agreed after many months of costly looking that there was no collusion between russia and top. Was collusion are hc. This afternoon Sarah Huckabee sanders picked up on the president s theme. I think that our position hasnt changed since day one, and i think we are seeing now that if there was any collusion with russia, it was between the dnc and the chin tons and certainly not our campaign. Well, Sarah Huckabee sanders is referring to the dnc and lawyers for the Clinton Campaign hiring fusion gps to do Opposition
running well into 2018 if not through the whole year and beyond. michael, do you back up what jeff is saying, that you go after the smaller fish first in the hopes that they will essentially flip or sum come to pressure? well, typically that s the case, but it s not necessarily that this is a typical case. if you look back at whitewater, for example, they indicted sefl people for bank fraud. none of them were really small fish. none of them had anything to say about the president s corruption. but there were significant financial transactions that were alleged and were indicted and were proved and these guys went to jail. so it could well be that manafort or a flynn or somebody who has dealings on the outside of the collusion gets indicted for that activity. it s been five months. wise man if it s his case is a fast moving prosecutor and it well then could be that if it is one of those guys and they are found guilty or they plead
i think that jeffrey and carl are absolutely right. there s going to be a big effort to flip whoever it is whose indicted. but jeff tu bin, if it is, you know, some past crime, financial crime from years ago, is it you know, david is saying, you know, someone at the white house will say, look, that s nothing about collusion. this is reaching back in history years. is it possible those kind of charges are brought to your point, in order to get them to flip and kind of a smaller fish, charging them with something from the past to get them to flip on what they may know? right. people flip because they know they re going to be convicted and looking at serious jail time. it doesn t necessarily mean they have to flip on precisely the issue that they will testify against higher ups. i mean, i know we are in a position here of spk lating, and that s not that s not ideal.
paul cal lesson, laura coats, done steen and jeff tu been. michael, let s put this into perspective for us. what does this mean for the mueller investigation? well, what it means is that he s indicted somebody. we don t know whether it s to the core charge of collusion or whether it s to the collateral charge of money laundering or tax evasion. we can surmise from pamela s reporting if it was andrew wise man who was at the courthouse who was returning the indictment, wise man has been on the manafort case and that it therefore might beological to conclude that it is manafort. manafort has been under scrutiny for both collusion and also for his real estate dealings and for tax and money laundering investigatio investigations. so you could have an investigation of manafort separate from the collusion but which implicates his dealings with the monies that he earned in ukraine and elsewhere over seas. jeff, is what s your take on this from a legal standpoint?