the plan was illegal, or said in in front and trump did not care it was illegal. i think that was one of the biggest take-aways that eastman himself knew it was illegal and put it in an email, i want you to do a minor constitutional violation. chuck, back to you, we will build our way back to donald trump if we, can and specifically about his lawyer, that lawyer, john eastman, we even saw the email that he wrote to golden globe, saying, you know, having to rudy giuliani, saying you know, having thought about it, i think i do need a pardon here that understands his mind set and understanding he had done something criminal, why else would you need a pardon, what are the legal implications to face him? good questions, peter. first on the pardon, i m not a poker player but i m told people who play poker look for tells if they have a good land or a bad hand and a tell, consciousness of guilt, as you articulated would be asking for a pardon, would be asking for a pardo
evidence, and you want to see what other people said, and when you question them yourself, you want to have those depositions and those transcripts in front of you. so there s an immediate need and there s an ongoing future need. and it really strikes me as odd that the committee would not provide this to the department of justice now. because now is when they need it. juck chosenberg, garrett haake, thanks for your reporting all week from the hill, i know you have a couple of busy weeks ahead. jonathan allen, you as well. we appreciate all of you. we will have special coverage of next january 6th hearing on tuesday at noon eastern. led by andrea mitchell, katie tur and halle jackson, right here on msnbc. president biden on the defensive, as americans face rising prices on just about everything. what he says about inflation and the challenges for the white house to communicate to families that are struggling. plus, another american community now in mourning, after another deadly