co-defendant in addition to trump s long time aide walt nauta who was charged in the first indictment they are now also charging another mar-a-lago employee, carlos deoliveria a maintenance worker at mar-a-lago and has been seen on surveillance footage moving boxes with walt nauta. it has been a question about whether he, too, would be charged. today we got our answer. paula, tell us what we know about this third co-defendant now, carlos de oliveria, the head of maintenance at mar-a-lago. how did he get wrapped up in this? the boss wanted something done, right?so unique about thi investigation is through our reporting we ve seen pretty much every single employee at mar-a-lago has had to talk with special counsel investigators at one point. there were a few who really stood out as possibly having criminal exposure. walt nauta being the first. we know he was pressed to flip and did not do that. here we have carlos.
being former president trump. one of the big outstanding questions in this investigation is the extent to which the former president was directing any of this alleged conduct. but, of course, also getting a new codefendant, in addition to trump s longtime aide, walt nauta, which charged in the first indictment, there they are now also charging another mar-a-lago employee, carlos de oliveira. he is a maintenance worker at mar-a-lago, and he has been seen on surveillance footage moving boxes with walt nauta. and it s been a question, abby philip, about whether he would be charged. today, we got our answer. paula, tell us what we know now about this third codefendant, carlos de oliveira. he is head of maintenance at mar-a-lago. how did he get wrapped up in all this? the boss wanted something done, right? what is so unique about this investigation is that, through our reporting, we have seen that pretty much every single employee at mar-a-lago has had to talk with special counsel
provided to investigators. so, the question is, well, was it found in mar-a-lago? did it travel from new jersey down to florida? is there some other way, did they go back to the intelligence community? at this point, unclear how they eventually obtained it. and when they obtained the specific information. as i said, it s notable that it wasn t in the first indictment, and it s been something that publicly, the former president and his legal team, have made statements that appear to be untrue. if it was something they obtained from the intelligence community, or intelligence agency, they would then have to confirm that the documentary from the intelligence agency was the document that the former president is holding up in that room. exactly. they have several ways to do that. he was in a room with at least four other people. we know two of his close aides, who we spoke in the special counsel investigators, and also to people working on an autobiography for former white house chief o
yeah, so it s something we should be watching to see if anyone else receives a target letter. it sounds like. you also reported that former doj official, richard donahue, has been interviewed by the special counsel s team, as it just walked through, in the intro there. he did have a pretty significant testimony a year ago at the january 6th hearing that we played some of. what is your reporting tell you about whether he told the special counsel anything new or different, or what did they learn from him? in my conversation with him, he said he told the special counsel investigators the same thing he said under oath to the january 6th committee, that he told the full truth than and he repeated that story and those explanations to the special counsel investigators. he was not called before the grand jury. we don t know why that is, perhaps it s just in terms of how the special counsel s approaching and moving with which crimes he s deciding to charge and when. but again, richard donah
you also reported that former doj official richard donahue has been interviewed by the special counsel s team as i just walked through in the intro there. he did have a pretty significant testimony a year ago at the january 6th hearings that we played some of. what is your reporting telling you about whether he told the special counsel anything new, or different, or what did you learn from him? in my conversation with him, he said he told the special counsel, investigators, the same thing. he s told them under oath to the january 6th committee, that he told a full truth, and he repeated that story and those explanations to the special counsel investigators. he was not called before the grand jury. and we don t know why that is, perhaps, it is just in terms of how the special counsel is approaching and moving with rich crimes. he is deciding to charge them and one. but again, richard donahue explaining that donald trump, throughout all these theories, bit by bit, he was saying, this o