lavishly through his corporate bank account. mr. ziegler, did you actually review these bank knowledge, not knowledge that someone is relating to you, you actually looked at these documents. that is correct. i looked at them. mr. shapley, hunter biden, when he did, that he told burisma to send that infor information, and when the money came back to him, he booked it as a loan. should have been taxable as soon as it became income, and whatever he did with that after that was just a scheme to evade taxes that year. did not book this as a loan itself, so treating it differently than they did. is this actually you are viewing
the most egregious offensive and charge of those. is that unfamiliar to you, that kind of decision by a pros prosecutor? i can t speak to anything related to the trump investigation, but it was not just investigators. exhibit 2 in my testimony clearly shows the prosecution recommendation report where it says right in the document that the united states attorney and tax division agree with those recommended charges. and then again, special agent ziegler alluded to in late 2022 recommended to whom? the department of justice. referred to the tax division for approval, discretion right, but then it all went to the u.s. attorney in del delaware. that s not entirely accurate because the tax division up through march 16th of 2023 had
u.s. capitol police officers. they just wanted to be where the cameras were, made sure they got there message out. several arrests there. and ever since then, it s been quiet, so that had nothing directly to do with the hearing. it was just coinciding with the start so that they could get their message out, and guess what? here we are talking about it. they were not actually protesting what happened in the hearing room. john: i thought it was interesting, the lengths to which joe ziegler went to to describe who he is. he says i am a gay democrat married to a man. i hope i am an example to other lgbtq people out there, questioning doing the right thing at a potential cost to themselves and others. he s already been heavily criticized. why do you think he went into that level of detail? just say look, despite my
turner. inc. you for being here. i appreciate your courage and your dedication to the truth and your sense of obligation. surprisingly, my questions are going to be about your testimony. we are going to have a little shifted to actually talk about what you are here for. i am going to cite specific spots of your transcript testimony, but i don t think you will have to read along. if i ask a question after having cited one and you want to refer to it, please let me know, but i think pretty much we will be able to follow along. mr. ziegler, you stated on page 17 that you started this investigation in november 2018 after reviewing bank reports related to another case that you were working on. those bank reports identify hunter biden as paying prostitutes. also evidence that he was living
just highlighted, it states in there that even leslie wolf agreed with these charges moving forward. mr. ziegler, on page 32 of the transcript of your testimony, you discuss the need to interview hunter biden s adult children regarding certain deductions that you listed earlier hunter biden, included on his tax returns. you also testified that assistant united states attorney leslie wolf told you that you would get into a hot water is interviewed the president s grandchildren. in other cases that you ve worked over your career, have you ever had a prosecutor tell you that you could not interview a relevant witness? so there are certain things that come into whether we talk to a witness or not. if they are an attorney, if there is some special situation