that is in that analysis that goes back to the point of the certain deductions that were taken. the certain deductions that were taken on the tax return. that is for you guys you guys to decide whether the felony was there or not. that is for the u.s. attorney to decide. i am afraid we are not going to be able to investigate every tax case in america. now recognizing mr. smith from missouri. thank you, mr. shapley, mr. ziegler. i want to thank you both for your testimony and your willingness to come forward and tell the truth for the american public. i apologize of the behavior of some of our colleagues and how the press has treated you for doing what is right so the american people can see it. mr. shapley, included in the document provided to the ways and means committee is a document labeled exhibit 2.
antitank warfare. he was impeached, quite correctly, but my friends on the other side of the aisle all voted against that. they had no problem with that kind of interference that directly affected national security. mr. shapley and mr. ziegler, you both testified about the fact that you ve been subject to criticism, ridicule, public disclosure, perhaps menacing comments, because you come forward. is that correct? menacing comments? yes, sir. and you too, mr. ziegler. that must be a terrible feeling. and whoever does not, i think you would probably both agree, is doing it in service to you individually. you are simply doing your duty
the investigators. laura: the chinese bank was sending millions the energy bank was sending millions of dollars and congressman donalds, ziegler, the whistleblower, who revealed himself today, was describing the intimidation that not just he but other agents experience dollars in this investigation. there was an environment where you were afraid to ask questions. questions that could lead to the presidential campaign. this is after the campaign s over. so questions like that was restricted and i was so things like that were we were limited to talking about. laura: congressman donalds how do democrats with a straight face deny that this is a problem with the facts that are laid out? well, look, laura, let me tell you, first, what mr. zeigler said there is the facts. those are the facts. it s all through his written
where we were always on an impending election cycle. i don t see where you are referenced it in my transcript, you know. page 33. you were talking about how the election cycle is delaying decisions. i m sorry, sir. that s in special agent ziegler s transcript. that s why i couldn t find it. laura: whoops. let s try that again. mr. zeigler and you shared concerns about delays related to the election cycle. but at that time joe biden was not the president? i believe at that time he was the nominee for president. so i m confused by your lane of questioning. we are talking about an election to which now president biden was a part of. so, he didn t have to be the president to have election meddling. no. buff the question was. this was he the president at that time in april 2020? it s been asked and answered. the answer is? yes or no? no. thank you. thank you, i yield back mr. chairman, may i finish? please.