sources, a tenet of agreement has been reached between a public and leadership and the white house on a debt ceiling deal. the contours of the agreement will be relayed to gop members on an all-member call happening later this hour. and in just a few moments, we will hear from speaker kevin mccarthy we will bring those remarks to you live when they occur. joining me now, shermichael singleton, and host of the shermichael show on sirius xm. jonathan alter, and nbc and msnbc contributor, and ashley pratte oates. and nbc thank contributor and political strategist. while everybody. welcome to the hardest moment you could possibly be welcome to. this is a crazy moment, jonathan. what do you expect to hear from the speaker when he gets in front of those microphones after what has been at times a contentious row with the white house over this debt ceiling plan? look, we don t know for sure what he s going to say. but you can expect him to spin this in a way that seems like they go
the public doesn t like to see this kind of brinkmanship, and i think they re mostly going to react with some sense of relief, but also pox on both their houses attitude towards this. pox on both their that s an interesting point, for michael, because you have a situation because of a situation where people will be looking for votes. the democrats are going to be looking for some republican votes or republicans are gonna be looking for a democratic voice here because, as indicated, not everyone on the hard right or hard left are going to be happy with this deal. they just aren t. that s the essence of what a compromise deal does, it takes some people off. that s okay as long as you have the votes. how do you see that part of this playing out? the politics of that playing out for both biden and mccarthy trying to get the votes? that s a good question. i think the president is going to have an easier time keeping
that there might be a slight increase in defense spending. it s something progressives and many democrats typically haven t been in support of. i also think on the flip side, speaker mccarthy s gonna have to be concerned even though i think jonathan is right, there may be enough votes to get this passed over to the senate. it only takes one republican to cause a nightmare for speaker mccarthy and i m hoping that something that could be avoided here until the deal is done. there are a lot of nightmare scenarios that could play out if this deal proceeds sideways by the republican house caucus. but i actually want to ask you a broader question about the moment. is this our new normal? where we find a situation where dems are trying to find republicans to vote with them on a deal or a situation where the republicans have the presidency and they just pass a clean debt deal as they did three times before under trump
budge in this negotiating process as you very well laid out, who do you think is gonna have to swallow the hardest? we i actually think, michael, there will be a number of folks who have to hold their nose and vote for this deal, frankly. and i think including folks in the democratic caucus if you can expect not just some members of the progressive the commercial progressive caucus, but also members in the republican conference, or the freedom congress, i heard your conversation with earlier. but this, look, president biden should be commanding, he got a deal in principle. now it s on congress to get this thing through, but joe biden did but many people were skeptical of him being able to do which was make a deal with kevin mccarthy. the question, is can speaker mccarthy deliver the votes, or will the white house have to come in and
to expect the past but the question is of course for democrats as, well for leader jeffries, is this something that they can swallow, is it something that members can swallow, especially when it comes to these work requirements that we ve been hearing all day, democrats are really against, that s a big question it s a question for another day because tonight it s all about republicans and whether they will support this bill. nbc news capitol hill correspondent julie tsirkin, you re working. it really really appreciate you, julie. let us know if anything else breaks. let s go back to my panel, shermichael singleton, jonathan alter, ashley pratte oates we, and debbie mucarsel-powell, former member of the house. shermichael, let s go back with you on the last point that julie was talking about. tonight it s all about the republicans. tomorrow, not literally, but figuratively, it s about the democrats. how do you see these two