interesting. philip, catherine and max are back with me. philip, you say these conspiracy theories, these lies, it is your belief he is throwing anything against the wall about the mueller investigation to see what sticks? yeah. i think there have been a slew of these things as you said. i looked at them yesterday. i counted up ten in just the last year alone that are atte t attempts to undermine mueller s investigation. the reason is he understands that if people see mueller as a valid interrogator, if they see his investigation as something real, then they will start to question their faith in donald trump. so donald trump does whatever he can to try and undermine mueller s investigation. it s sort of an escape valve for him. is it working? it s not really working very much. if you look at the poll numbers, republicans once he first started tweeting about mueller, republicans were like, oh, i have less trust in the investigation. since then, it s just sort of been static. b
it s sort of an escape valve for him. is it working? it s not really working very much. if you look at the poll numbers, republicans once he first started tweeting about mueller, republicans were like, oh, i have less trust in the investigation. since then, it s just sort of been static. because you see the outcomes, what s happening in the courts. so flynn admitted, catherine, that it wasn t entrapment, that he wasn t trapped, that he wasn t hoodwinked into lying to the fbi somehow. all you have to do is tell the truth, right? the truth will make you free as they say. it s not just the president who is now pushing these conspiracy theories because she said even after he admitted it wasn t, sarah sanders says it was a trap. it s not just the president. it s the administration. this is an administration problem. yes. i mean for an administration that holds itself out as the administration of law and order, they have very confused ideas about what law and order entails. if agen
artistically designed steel slats so you can see through it that will be paid for by shifting money from one department to another, and it s not as catchy. yeah, an iron curtain to steel venetian blinds. abby, do we know if the president is going to weigh in on michael flynn, and that was a remarkable press where sarah sanders was not backing down. it s hard to imagine that he will resist, but in some ways the president was so repudiated in the hearing yesterday, and he started the day by saying good luck, michael flynn, can t wait to what you have to say in the hearing, and then hours later he had the judge taking the president s own words and asking flynn directly, do you believe you were tricked?
statements, and flynn said, i am, your honor. so flynn and his attorneys refuting the white house there. as we look at what happened, harry, yesterday, the judge was not just making a statement to michael flynn and not just making a statement to michael flynn s attorneys but it seemed like he was making a statement to the white house, one he wants to last perhaps going on from today into the future, which is to say that your argument is not working. it doesn t sit well with me and it doesn t sit well with the facts, and i might punish michael flynn and his attorneys for saying what you have been saying publicly for the last few weeks. i am in a position to do it. there s no reason to walk it back except the facts and the truth. you enter the courtroom, and you have the oath, and it comes out one fact at a time. i think you are very right, he was not only talking to the white house but maybe the american people. we have this sort of political hubbub and a debate, and you
do you believe you were trapped? do you actually plead guilty to this? do you take fault for what you did? flynn said yes, he takes the fault and no, he was not trapped, he knew what he was doing then and now, and that was a message to donald trump, but it s a matter of time in a lot of ways before the president weighs in on this, because i think in some ways he can t help but do it, can t help but punch back especially at a moment like this when he has been so contradicted in a court of law. the one thing, though, if you were the president s lawyers or michael flynn s lawyers, you want the president to stay really quiet right now. it seems very much that all of this talk of entrapment came back to bite flynn in that courtroom. he could have walked out with zero jail time and he was staring prison time in the face when that judge was carrying down this really harsh