slaveholder but also the architect of the trail of tears that murdered more than 10,000 native people and for those reasons. brian: is it proper to put today s values on people from 200 years ago?. of course. we wouldn t be here today otherwise. slavery is despicable and the cases are indisputably bad with the indians but if you look back at history to try to cleanse the we have no history. we say that in the space that we control today we can say what goes on our public spaces that is not those that put that up. brian: you don t see any positive with andrew jackson?. i don t. i don t see anything other
i don t know if they just discovered he was a slaveholder or if they, you know, because of the news that has been in the media lately, sort of brought attention to a higher level. whatever the cases, they have made the decision to take that markers down. shannon: months ago, president trump predicted this. you have to give him credit. heat a couple of his tweets. he said, i do see the history of our culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. you can t change history but we can learn from it. who s next? washington, jefferson, so foolish. a little bit of a crystal ball. it s incredible. you can sort of quibble with donald trump sometimes with his tweets, whether or not he needs to weigh into certain things, whether it is the nfl or in this case, but he is almost always exactly right, whatever it it is that he does wind up saying. it s true, you can t change history. we have had a tough history. that s not to say have
i don t know if they just discovered he was a slaveholder or if they, you know, because of the news that has been in the media lately, sort of brought attention to a higher level. whatever the cases, they have made the decision to take that markers down. shannon: months ago, president trump predicted this. you have to give him credit. heat a couple of his tweets. he said, i do see the history of our culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. you can t change history but we can learn from it. who s next? washington, jefferson, so foolish. a little bit of a crystal ball. it s incredible. you can sort of quibble with donald trump sometimes with his tweets, whether or not he needs to weigh into certain things, whether it is the nfl or in this case, but he is almost always exactly right, whatever it it is that he does wind up saying. it s true, you can t change history. we have had a tough history. that s not to say have
question. thomas jefferson indisputably was a great man, he was the author of the declaration of independence, founder of the university of virginia and maybe most importantly, the greatest thinker in american political history, all of us live in his shadow h. unfortunately, he was also a slaveholder, it s real, it was a moral taint and we are to remember it. the two fanatics on the left it means that jefferson must be purged from public memory forever. theha demand is already coming that we do that. in 2015, students at the university of missouri demanded that the removal of a statue. two years ago ashley banfield suggested the jefferson memorial in washington might have to go. needless to say, there is no limit when you start thinking like this. hundreds of activists in new york demanded that statue of theodore roosevelt be dismantled, they argued that roosevelt was a racist. that s the standard, nobody is safe. watch out abraham lincoln, you re next.
founding fathers. you will see calls for thomas jefferson statue be taken down as a slaveholder. the thing anyone who was involved and the average confederate soldier who had nothing to do a slaveholding, their legacy will be attacked, and it s also going to be a big problem for one of the world s biggest religions whose founder was a slaveholder. history is complicated. if you want to tear things down, it s a terrible move and instead, history should be contextualized. bill: are you suggesting that bricks can be put on this or not? based on your answer, yes, it gets complicated but you re not suggesting that there is any end in sight either. i think the brakes could be put on us if we take the students of those kinds of people who are turned on monuments, committing public vandalism, not semidonors in the history that they are tearing down that those people are not going to be on a break. but if you have some more sound men and intellectuals who say there s a difference between na