correspondent for slate.com and host of the podcast atticus, and neal katyal, a former acting solicitor general and an msnbc legal contributor, and dahlia, i want to go to you first with what you think the supreme court s reaction to this might be, that is your beat, the supreme court. they took a different view about any possible injunction here. i never want to predict, lawrence, what the supreme court is going to do. i want to say that this is an extraordinary piece of judicial writing, judicial fact finding. this in contrast to a paragraph, a page and a half on the shadow docket that took no notice of any of the suffering of people in texas. this is a point by point by point including in the footnotes, which are amazing reputation of the carelessness of the supreme court, i feel
any of us who would donate money or otherwise provide help to a woman to cross state lines? could a new federal law on abortion rights help? democrats say that is what they plan to do. even if they can do that, would it help? and is worse coming? and if so, how do we prepare for it? joining us now is someone who has talked me off many a legal ledge over the years. tonight i think we might possibly be standing on that ledge together, however. senior editor at slate.com, dolly, nice to see you. thank you for being here. hi, rachel. thanks for having me. first of all, let me give you the option. you have special privileges here on this show. do you want to throw all these questions out? are these at least close to the right ones to be asking or are they not? they are good i will tell you when you threw them up on the screen again i had the most wicked flashback to issue spotter exams in my first year
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personally to efforts, volunteering to help women in abortion ban states get to states where abortion is still legal so they can have the procedure done elsewhere, are these laws designed to target people who provide that kind of help? you know, i ve seen that answered both in the affirmative and the negative today. npr was reporting earlier today that the law will not reach out and get you if you are simply writing a check to help somebody get out of state. it will not touch you if you are in fact, treating someone out of state. but larry tribe writing in the guardian today suggested otherwise. i think the truth is that the law is sufficiently vague, rachel, that we re going to have to test it and test it and find out. one of the points, the very purpose of this law is to chill people not just abortion providers in texas but to chill the entire community of people who want to help women right now into second-guessing whether they re going to be on the hook. that was the purpose of