wonder how you reach that conclusion. well, it is my piece. i never actually said that police are racist. what i talk about is police violence and the rate of police officers who kill civilians in recent years. if you look at the numbers, in 2015 and 2016, over 1,000 people have been shot and killed by police officers. those numbers don t lie. and this year over 500 people so far have been killed by police. so what i m talking about is police violence that kills a lot of people and a lot of those people are unarmed or they don t pose a threat to officers. and those are alarmingly high numbers. so, in my piece, i never say that police are racist, but they can get violent very quickly as we have seen. tucker: right. i don t want to contradict you because you seem sincere. i don t know if you can see we have the headline of your piece right up on the screen next to you and i m quoting america is suffering from a plague of deadly, unaccountable, and racist police violence.
wonder how you reach that conclusion. well, it is my piece. i never actually said that police are racist. what i talk about is police violence and the rate of police officers who kill civilians in recent years. if you look at the numbers, in 2015 and 2016, over 1,000 people have been shot and killed by police officers. those numbers don t lie. and this year over 500 people so far have been killed by police. so what i m talking about is police violence that kills a lot of people and a lot of those people are unarmed or they don t pose a threat to officers. and those are alarmingly high numbers. so, in my piece, i never say that police are racist, but they can get violent very quickly as we have seen. tucker: right. i don t want to contradict you because you seem sincere. i don t know if you can see we have the headline of your piece right up on the screen next to you and i m quoting america is suffering from a plague of deadly, unaccountable, and racist police violence.
for putin feeling the economic sanctions, he s feeling isolated, oil prices have dropped. he would like to get back into the game with the united states, but on his term. what we have what the trump administration is going to have going for them is that both of us have the same enemy in isis. so there is a possibility of seeing us do joint military exercises. it might be russia doing the bombings that kill civilians, not us. as an historian, have you ever seen this kind of thing before, a foreign country meddling in u.s. election and news con new coverage, or is it a new online world with shares and clicks and meddling by foreign governments? there used to be a thing with a telegram inciting mexico to declare war on the united states in the world war i era, and if they would do that germany would
united states, but on his term and what the trump administration is going to have going for them, is we both have the same enemy in isis. there s a possibility of seeing us doing joint military exercises. it may be russians that kill civilians, not us. as a historian, have you ever seen this kind of thing before? a foreign country meddling in u.s. elections? or is this a new online world with news spreading by clicks and shares and meddling by foreign governments? douglas? well, there used to be. there was a zimmerman telegram that was kind of insighting mexico to declare war on the united states in the world war i era. if they would do that, germany would give them back arizona and new mexico. this kind of intrigue has gone on, but not in the way where
odds of it happening then and there. you hear terrorists in america all the time. but you never think okay, that is going to happen to us. like we talked about it, and we all were like the same mentality, but you never know when will it happens. you have to be at least somewhat conscious of the fact we re in a war and we have an enemy and they want to kill us and kill civilians. it lets you know always be aware of your surroundings. don t let yourself be known as military and american. but you were not in military gear when you were on the train, were you? we were not the targets, we were the only ones who did something. but how hard is that? you re young guys, 22. he is the baby. so it s not like you had a lifetime of being in the armed forces or being cops or whatever, where you trained for years and years and years to be alert where you understand there could be danger on every corner. did it still come naturally to