odds of it happening then and there. >> you hear terrorists in america all the time. but you never think okay, that is going to happen to us. like we talked about it, and we all were like the same mentality, but you never know when will it happens. >> you have to be at least somewhat conscious of the fact we're in a war and we have an enemy and they want to kill us and kill civilians. >> it lets you know always be aware of your surroundings. don't let yourself be known as military and american. >> but you were not in military gear when you were on the train, were you? >> we were not the targets, we were the only ones who did something. >> but how hard is that? you're young guys, 22. >> he is the baby. >> so it's not like you had a lifetime of being in the armed forces or being cops or whatever, where you trained for years and years and years to be alert where you understand there could be danger on every corner. did it still come naturally to