hutchinson ahead of her sworn testimony. a source tells cnn one person who may have tried to influence her did so at the behest of then white house chief of staff mark meadows. the january 6th committee giving us a taste of that pressure campaign. this is a call received by one of our witnesses, quote, a person let me know you have your deposition tomorrow. he wants me to let you know he s thinking about you. he knows you re loyal and you re going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition. cnn s ryan nobles is here with the latest. yeah, jim, we are getting more information about the concerns the january 6th select committee has about some of their witnesses being intimidated by the former president donald trump or some of his closest allies, and we re learning that those examples that they provided at the end of their hearing on tuesday were both directed at their star witness, cassidy hutchinson, and at least one of them, the belief is that it was sent
phone calls and meetings demonstrating how the former president personally and continually tried to convince them to support his fraudulent claims about a stolen election. part of today s hearing focused on someone whose home was actually rated by federal investigators yesterday. former justice department official named jeffrey clark. we are going to have more on that right in just a moment. the committee s interest about clark has to do with the former presidents effort to install clark as acting attorney general so that clark could use the levers of the justice department to subvert joe biden s victory in the 2020 election. take a listen to this incredible moment recalled today of a white house meeting just days before january 6 involving jeffrey clark, today s witnesses, the white house counsel, and then president trump. clark had just explained his plan, and here s how white house counsel eric hirschman responded. a warning, now, some of the language is a little bit sal
president who wanted the extra near oig legitimacy from doj to back his bogus claims and overturn the election and stay in power. even some trump allies now privately acknowledging to cnn that some of the testimony from yesterday was, quote, damaging. this is the room where it happened. a dramatic high stakes meeting in the oval office just three days before the capitol riot in january of 2021. the witnesses testified that trump leaned on them to publicly call the election fraudulent and corrupt, something that they wouldn t do. and that when the acting attorney general jeffrey rosen there refused, trump threatened to replace him with this little known environmental lawyer from the civil division jeffrey clark. the justice department officials in the room all pushed back threatening to resign. he said so suppose i do this, suppose i replace him, jeff rosen, with him, jeff clark. what would you do? and i said, mr. president, i would resign immediately. i m not working one mi
republican congressman. we will wear that any members of congress had [inaudible] mr. gates and mr. brooks mr. gates was the first to ask for a pardon. [inaudible] i m sorry. the only reason i know to ask for a pardon is because you think you have committed a crime. the president is getting very agitated and he said, people tell me i should just get rid of both of you and change the leadership, put jeff clarke in, maybe something will finally get done. i thought that it was [inaudible] how does the president even know mr. clark? i said, so suppose i do the, suppose i replace him, replace with [inaudible] jeff clark. what would you do? i said, mr. president, i would rather resign immediately. stephanie ruhle, all here for our special primetime recap of the fifth day of the january 6th hearings. good evening from msnbc headquarters, i m rachel. i am joined here by my beloved colleagues lawrence o donnell, nicole wallace, joy reid, ari melber. and if that s
adamant that he had one and that we were not doing our job. the president said, just say the election is corrupt and leave the rest to me and well. republican congressman. we will wear that any members of congress had [inaudible] mr. gaetz and mr. brooks mr. gaetz was the first to ask for a pardon. mr. biggs did, mr. gohmert asked as well. i m sorry. the only reason i know to ask for a pardon is because you think you have committed a crime. the president is getting very agitated and he said, people tell me i should just get rid of both of you and change the leadership, put jeff clarke in, maybe something will finally get done. i thought the puzzle was asinine. how does the president even know mr. clark? i said, so suppose i do the, suppose i replace him, replace him, jeff rosen, with him, jeff clark. what would you do? i said, mr. president, i would rather resign immediately. but so baloney said this is a murder suicide pact. tonight rachel maddow, nic