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and i think a big purpose turning point was when you started hearing the far left saying use the 14th amendment, sir, and the freedom caucus saying we don t like any of this. you knew it was going to be a centrist deal between the two parties. howard: right. and some of the most hard-line conservative members have already said they hate this deal, they probably weren t going to vote for it because it didn t have everything each side wanted which is why when the vote happens, connect mccarthy may need some democratic votes. i think there s no question about that. but i think if the president of the united states is saying it s a decent deal for the country, it takes debt off the table, it allows our government to continue, then i think a lot of centrist democrats will saying okay, i don t love it it, but it s a compromise. howard: it s a compromise. several democratic lawmakers on the record telling politico they feel that during this whole thing biden should have been speaking out mo

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