one side s political benefit political damage is often done. but this one is being argued over all day about who won the shutdown, who lost the shutdown in terms of the politics. how do you see it? i think that s the key. they do not work in any predictable way. i found the argument mist fiezing. we re not going to know who won the shutdown until the next three or four weeks workout. so the thing the democrats feel they got is a credible promise from mitch mcconnell to hold a vote on the immigration bill. and amidst that they will shutdown the government if they don t get that. so now we don t know what immigration bill gets brought to the floor, does it pass. does it get past the house? then does the president sign it. what i don t understand about the pro shutdown arguments than
then does the president sign it. what i don t understand about the pro shutdown arguments than circulating is why extended a shutdown for 14 or 35 days would have made it likelier that trump and mcconnell and ryan fold on that. shutdowns have a tendency to harden positions and it s difficult for one party to get much of what they want n amidst a long shutdown. it looks to me that the democrats, chuck schumer, took their winnings off the table, with which were c.h.i.p., which they were not going to get in any other method, the republican posture of being in favor of c.h.i.p. is the classic republican mirage where they re happy to never vote for it and advance it, and they were holding it as a hostage to use in one of these situations. and this is one of those things that democrats as hostage negotiators got one thing out of the building.