senator, i ve antelope hunted in your lovely state, and it s a magnificent state, as would be the ozark region. my experience is that people who are there so care about it, and they just don t want anyone to come in and mess it up. but when i talk to people who defend blueways, their response is, look, this isn t black helicopter tin foil hat stuff, this is real effort on the federal government to make it all better, to improve it. so why should i still be concerned that there may be something else behind all this? well, i have the same concerns that you do. what we have seen is washington with whether it s the endangered species act, the clean air act, the clean water act, go way beyond the original intent of any of those legislation pieces, and whatever secretary salazar was secretary of the interior at the time may have promised people, we now have a new secretary of interior, and that s why you
for extended periods of time. what are they telling you, especially in light of the immigration reform bill? well, yeah. i worked alongside them nighttime, morning time, all the time. it is so dangerous down at that border, and you don t see that on television because cameramen don t usually go there. what they re saying is they can t do their job. they re understaffed. they re not given the resources that they need. they re not given the support that they need, and they re very frustrated they re not allowed to speak to the press, they re not allowed to speak to the people. they want to say, hey, listen, this is what s coming through, and everything is coming through. what is coming through down there? you just saw. there s an abundance of chinese. chinese? i didn t know we bordered china. i guess that s a new one for me. i thought i passed geography. yeah. how are chinese coming across the mexican border? we re joking about it, but it s very, very serious. because, as
the land here in our area, and the people stopped it then, and i fully expect that the people now will get to stop too. this is just something we re not going to stand for. i have a lot of friends up in that area, and i m pretty sure i wouldn t want to mess with them, and i wouldn t want to take their land away. darrell, you also own family farm property. i assume your family has had property there for quite some time. how long does your history with that land in the ozark white river watershed go back? yes, our family settled the property where i live now on our farm actually in the 1800s when our my ancestors moved here from tennessee and settled it then in the 1800s. what i want to establish is this is land that has long been in your family. so the question is do you love that land? do you want to protect it? or are you interested in just destroying it and ripping it to pieces, shredding it, destroying
laws. i would agree with st. augustine that an unjust law is no law at all. now, what is the difference between the two? how does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? a just law is a manmade code that squares with the moral law or the law of god. an unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law. i submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust is in reality expressing the highest respect for law. if today i lived in a communist country where certain principles dear to the christian faith are suppressed, i would openly advocate disobeying that country s anti-religious laws. that sounds like a statement from some far right wing christian tea party type, doesn t it? i m sure that liberals who live to disparage evangelicals would think, that s the kind of thing i d say. you know what, they d have a field day shredding me for bringing god into the
don t want to leave this up to individuals. you want people locally having the information, the input, and the power to control those decisions. where are the checks and balances of government in terms of having congress have a say in this instead of a secretary of interior and an administration having the full authority to put this in place? i say, if people at home don t like it, and i know my county commissioners in wyoming just hate this, how can we make sure that we re taken off a list and they re not included in a list because there doesn t seem to right now be any appeal mechanism for removing yourself from the list. what role did senators like you and other senators of rural or western or midwestern states have in the development of the blueway designation? and when did you first learn of it? we had absolutely no input or understanding until secretary salazar came out with his executive ruling on this kind of