violence. and his followers, this is why what he has done is so irresponsible, his followers are taking up that mantle. and this is very, very dangerous indeed. we ve heard threats call into the colorado supreme court. they have had to fortify as well. we are already in that period. and it raises the stakes because it shows us that this is all, this door has already been open. and if trump is allowed to ascend to the most powerful position in this country and perhaps the world, that door will be flung open. how much worse it will be? we need to get very, very serious about the threat to democracy. yes, the political violence is such an important one to highlight. sherrilyn, thank you as always. pleasure talking to you this evening. thank you, jen. coming up, congresswoman nancy pelosi joining me on the threat donald trump poses to democracy and what democrats can do to stop him. first, former president barack obama has expressed concerns about the structure of
is becoming inseparable from his legal cases. first of all, in many ways, i extension victimizedthatit extension victimizedthatit not on but the big question , lot about trump. speech today commemorating the anniversary of a mass shooting by white supremacist at mother emanuel church in charleston, south carolina. in a pretty bold comparison, the president likened trump s election gia denialism to the end of the civil war when the former confederate states who are unwilling to accept defeat. in fact, he called trump s big lie the second lost cause. now, we are living in an era of a second lost cause, which again, there s some in this country trying to turn a loss into a lie, of lie which if allowed to live with once again bring terrible damage to this country. this time, a lie is about the 2020 election. and he did not at all shy away from bringing up the racist undertones and the violence that unfolded during the insurrection. we saw something on january 6th we haven t seen be
she s the former president and director of the naacp legal defense fund. she is now the vernon jordan distinguished professor of civil rights at howard law school. sherrilyn, it s great to see you. happy new year. i want to happy new year. you too. i m wondering, when you watch this speech, what you think about. if that bull comparison that president made. he compared to trump s big light to the aftermath of the civil war. you have been calling for more vocal action, from a lot of people on this point. but what did you make of his speech and that point specifically. i thought it was terrific, jen. in the sense that, you know, we ve come a long way. and maybe, we are kind of used to it now. but we did not use to have presidents who named white supremacy. we did not have presidents who talk about the lost cause. and frankly, we did not have a country including journalists who are willing to call out trump s racism. it s refreshing to hear president biden do it. i mean, trump s be
and we need to be aware that this is part of trump s brand, the menace, the threat of violence. and his followers, this is why what he has done is so irresponsible, his followers are taking up that mantle. and this is very, very dangerous indeed. we ve heard threats called into the colorado supreme court. they have had to fortify as well. we are already in that period. and it raises the stakes because it shows us that this is all, this door has already been open. and if trump is allowed to ascend to the most powerful position in this country and perhaps the world, that door will be flung open. how much worse it will be? we need to get very, very serious about the threat to democracy. yes, the political violence is such an important one to highlight. sherrilyn, thank you as always. pleasure talking to you this evening. thank you, jen. coming up, congresswoman nancy pelosi joining me on the threat donald trump poses to democracy and what democrats can do to stop him. first, forme
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