particularly the violent ms-13? very important. we have seen a trend over the past couple of years where increasing violence, even if their own communities through savage, terrible savage crimes. intimidation. threats against our own communities. so it s very important that the message get out that this is a problem. nationwide. not only in l.a. and your bigger cities but all throughout america. todd: sheriff jenkins along those lines i want to put up numbers here. more than 10,000 members nationally of ms-13. approximately 1,000 members there in maryland. so, sheriff jenkins, i have to ask this question. how county strongest country in the world that has won wars all over the globe not be able to protect itself from 10,000 people that are in a gang? first of all, there is many more than 10,000 nationwide u secondly, we have to get serious. we have to get tough. we have to treat this group as we would any other terrorist group. because that s exactly what they are. we have to be pr
we have to be aggressive. i m all about the president s message. get strock, ge strong, get toug. department of justifiable all ought to come down and say we are going to treat this group as a terrorist organization. not set back and let this group terrorize our communities. lisa: sheriff, as we see this increased presence of ms-13, do you feel like, are you getting the tools, are you getting what you need from the federal government? do you feel like there is an increased partnership there. yes. but let me tell you where it lacks. it lacks at the local level because state leaders, state elect you had officials, local law enforcement does not have the will to step up and work with ice. in frederick county where i m from, we have a wonderful program. we cooperate with ice and out 287 g program and we deport criminal aliens. we don t allow them to terrorize our citizens. todd: sheriff jenkins, great point. when i was out with ice agents a couple months ago in new jersey they said they