particularly the violent ms-13? >> very important. we have seen a trend over the past couple of years where increasing violence, even if their own communities through savage, terrible savage crimes. intimidation. threats against our own communities. so it's very important that the message get out that this is a problem. nationwide. not only in l.a. and your bigger cities but all throughout america. todd: sheriff jenkins along those lines i want to put up numbers here. more than 10,000 members nationally of ms-13. approximately 1,000 members there in maryland. so, sheriff jenkins, i have to ask this question. how county strongest country in the world that has won wars all over the globe not be able to protect itself from 10,000 people that are in a gang? >> first of all, there is many more than 10,000 nationwide u secondly, we have to get serious. we have to get tough. we have to treat this group as we would any other terrorist group. because that's exactly what they are. we have to be proactive.