did someone tamper with the tapes? plus, senator manchin on the debt ceiling, biden s re-election. that interview is coming up. who was behind the drones the kremlin say were sent to kill putin? let s go outfront. good evening. i m pamela brown in for erin burnett. breaking news, tapes at mar-a-lago. special counsel jack smith is now asking questions about the handling of surveillance tapes from trump s home in florida. whether the tapes could have been tampered with. smith of course is leading the criminal investigation into trump s handling of classified documents. they want to hear from one or two executives. they re said to know a lot about mar-a-lago s inner workings. trump went on fox news to boasts about the tapes he handed over to prosecutors. they raided mar-a-lago. vicious ly raided mar-a-lago. i have tape, i gave them tapes. i gave it to them. i could have held that back. i gave them tape. but you know the tape they don t want me to reveal, if possible,
runaway debt we have. so do you think he will end up negotiating? i hope. i m very hopeful for that. i asked about it 90 days ago and they had their first meeting and now it s time to be serious about negotiating, putting what s on table, how do you know? we ve had more spending in the last ten years and the last 20 years, pamela, we ve accumulated more debt at any time before. for the past 21 years we ve spent more money than we brought in. you can t run your household that way. you can t run your private life. you can t run any business, small or large, that way. how can we continue to sustain all this debt? you ve criticized biden on a host of i shushs. he s running for a second term,
vote. outfront now, democratic senator joe manchin. you ve wrapped up with a meeting with julie su, one of the three key democratic senators, where do you stand tonight? we just finished up our meeting. it was a good meeting. i have a lot of work to do here to make my final decision. you haven t made a final decision yet? okay. you ve called it a mistake for biden and top democrats to demand to raise the debt ceiling first before negotiating a spening cut deal, biden now has a meeting set for may 9th with republicans but the white house still says no negotiations. is the u.s. headed for default? we re not going to default. i truly believe that with all my heart that we won t default. we know how detrimental that is.
we have a country in the case of russia that like a handful of other countries around the world is wrongfully detake people, using them as leverage in a practice that s absolutely unacceptable. elizabeth whelan, paul whelan s sister is now outfront. hi, elizabeth. you spoke with the biden administration earlier today about your brother, did you hear anything that suggests it s any closer to bringing him home. unfortunately not. we hope the u.s. government is putting all the resources toward getting paul released. i know your parents spoke to paul earlier this week, how is he doing? well, you know, he s doing as well as a person can be who s 4.5 in russian prisons. it s been a very long road for
are you backing him? i m not involved in any politics right now. my own or anybody else s. i won t be for this entire year. do you support him running for a second time for president? i m not involved in any type of politics. i m doing my job. i think everyone else should do the same. we have an awful lot of work, we shouldn t facing this theatrical debt ceiling, we ve got permitting coming up that we can t do and meet the needs and challenges in our country unless we re facing and fixing the permitting process in u.s. as soon as you say you support this, everything comes at you that you can t do your job as you should. the bottom line is, you re not publicly throwing your support behind biden, what do you think . i m not putting any support