until the midterm. a new msnbc poll out with stunning numbers that show how crucial people feel that this election actually is amidst a warning from the president, an exclusive interview with msnbc s jonathan caper. there s nothing automatic about democracy, even when you are in undergraduate school they talk about how our generation has to protect democracy. it really does. i think we are at one of those inflection points in history. meanwhile the former president making his first appearance at a rally since being subpoenaed by the january six committee. we will tell you what donald trump is saying. then, herschel walker s supporters standing by him in the wake of scandal. if you are okay with him paying for an abortion, why can t women make the same choice? i m going to talk to the good liars jason selvig about what he heard from the walk of faithful at a rally and then at our 3 pm hour, a very different conversation about abortion. can you have conversations with
volunteering information so we can understand what in the world happened down in that white house. so why do you think, nick, he s not? the idea he could have such access and give firsthand accounts of trump s efforts to seize the power of the doj as we heard from one hearing to corrupt it. the idea of the scheme to try to oust the acting attorney general but i suspect to the extent that cipollone is trying to carve out certain areas he doesn t have to talk about, i m assuming privilege will be a part of this and obviously, he can bend the ear of the president. will that be enough you think to overcome the obligation john is speaking about and is it valid? not at all. i mean, look, there is no attorney client privilege for starters. the white house counsel does not represent the president of the united states personally. he s not his personal lawyer. so there is no personal attorney client privilege. the only question is whether or not there is any valid executive privile
why do you think he is not? he could have such access and give first-hand accounts of the effort to seize power of the doj to try uncorrupted in the scheme to oust the acting attorney general. i suspect to the extent that pat cipollone is trying to carve out certain areas, i assume privileges part of this. will that be enough to overcome the obligation that he is speaking about? not at all. there is no attorney client privilege. the white house counsel does not represent the president of the united states personally. he is not the personal lawyer. there is no personal attorney client privilege. the only question is whether or not there is valued executive privilege. there may be some instances where donald trump came to him and discussed certain things in a normal fashion, asking whether or not honest certain activity was problematic. it doesn t sound that way, based on hutchinson s testimony. it seems to me what pat cipollone was doing was putting fires out all over the