Thank. The the. I. Dont have a. I. Mean ive been up with. A low in welcome across top where all Things Considered im Peter Lavelle ever since they arrived. All of Boris Johnson to 10 downing street there is a growing sense have been evident ability that breaks it will be executed on october 31st with or without a deal do we get to this point what lessons have been learned or should have been learned. Cross knocking bags and im joined by my guest were now here are to in paris he is chief Foreign Correspondent at le figaro in london we have allister donald he is an associate director at the academy of ideas and in edinburgh we cross and john white he is a political commentator and writer originally cross titles in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate let me go to john in edinburgh 1st here in my introduction i said theres a growing sense of inevitability that we will have brags that on the 31st here and my off the mark go ahead john i think with a to
With the latest on these stories you can head to our dot com cross talk is next coming up in about an hours time my colleague wants to. Follow in welcome to cross talk where all things are considered. Ever since the arrival of Boris Johnson to 10 downing street theres a growing sense have been evident ability that breaks it will be executed on october 31st with or without a deal to be get to this point what lessons have been learned should have been learned. That im joined by my guest were now in paris he is chief Foreign Correspondent at le figaro in london we have allister donald he is an associate director at the. To me of ideas and in edinburgh we cross in john white he is a political commentator and writer originally cross titles in effect that means he can jump any time you want and i always appreciate let me go to john in edinburgh 1st here in my introduction i said theres a growing sense of inevitability that we will have brags that on the 31st here and my off the mark go ahead
Can the west african state of gabon save its environment . Welcome save its environment . To hardtalk. I am stephen sackur. Welcome to hardtalk. I am stephen sackur. Our planet is haemorrhaging Natural Resources at an alarming rate. Biodiversity is under threat as forests are felled, wild animals illegally hunted. My guest today is on the frontline of the effort to c0 nse rve on the frontline of the effort to conserve and what remains. Lee white is the newly appointed environment minister in the west african state of gabon. A country famed for its tropical forests, elephants and gorillas. But also notorious for systemic corruption and inequality. So can gabon find a sustainable balance between the needs of man and nature . Theme music plays. Lee white, welcome to hardtalk. You first went to gabon as a research zoologist. You became an environmental campaigner and here we sit with you as a government minister, ministerforthe environment in gabon. How did you get seduced, if i may use th
Now on bbc news, hardtalk. Can the west african state of gabon save its environment . Welcome to hardtalk. Im stephen sackur. Our planet is haemorrhaging natural well revisit your relationship with the ruling family later, resources at an alarming rate. Because it is important because its politics and you are now a senior and important minister biodiversity is under threat in the gabonese government, as forests are felled, so well come back to politics wild animals illegally hunted. Because, of course, the bongo family my guest today is on the frontline still rules gabon through the son of the effort to conserve and protect what remains. Of omar bongo, ali bongo. But ijust want to come back first of all to forestry. Because it seems to me its a very important test case of what you have tried to achieve in your career. So explain to me, given we know that gabon is systematically corrupt, there is endemic corruption in gabon, and we know that illegal logging is a lucrative business, how
Those people who want to delay breaks it in fact want to do much more than that they want to actually stop that and right from the outset the mechanisms to stop or exit those are have always been posed in a kind of democratically friendly way but the mass the real intent which is really to stop or exit all the other lets stay within tensions i like that look this go back to admiral john i mean to resume was the worst person possible to negotiate because she didnt believe in it ok she wasnt she was the remainder now we have Boris Johnson which with very kind of a checkered past these really kind of grabbed this thing and made it his own and hes going to fall on his sword one way or another when it comes to braggs it here but least hes in braced it it seems to me and you gentlemen in the u. K. Are more familiar with it than i am but there seems to me legally theres not much out there that can actually really stop him hes going to get this done. Ideal or not go ahead john well theyre out