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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 04:06:00

now, his defense lawyers have asked the judge to give guy reffitt less than five years in prison. who knows? federal sentencing guidelines say that just the term of more or like, 9 to 11 years in prison. but this is interesting. and this provides us some new insight. the federal prosecutors in the guy reffitt case have now asked the judge for something called an upward departure from the sentencing guidelines. again, sentencing guidelines are again from like 9 to 11 years. they re asking for the court to consider a longer sentence than that. they re asking them to consider adding a sentencing enhancement in his case, on the grounds of terrorism, on the grounds that what he did fits the statutory definition of terrorism. quote, reffitt engaged in acts of violence that were intended to influence the government through intimidation or coercion, acts that have been defined by statute, as domestic terrorism. now, it is up to the courts, up to the judge, whether or not to actually do that, t

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 08:05:00

who knows. federal sentencing guidelines suggest a term of more like nine to 11 years in prison. but this is interesting. and this provides us some new insight. the federal prosecutors in the guy reffitt case have asked the judge for something called an upward departure from the sentencing guidelines. sentencing guidelines are nine to 11 years and they re asking for the court to consider a longer sentence than that, asking to add a sentencing enhancement to the case on the grounds of terrorism. onng the grounds what he did fi the statutory definition of terrorism. he engaged inst acts of violenc that were intended to influence the government through intimidation or coercion,o act been defined by statute as domestic terrorism. now, it is up to the court, up to the judge whether or not to actually do that, to accept this terrorism enhancement on guy

Transcripts For MSNBCW The Rachel Maddow Show 20220719

0 , so his son was 18, his daughter is 16. and on christmas eve, 2020, so that s like a month and a half after the like a month and a haf after th christmas eve 2020, his 18-year-old son went online to the fbi website to tips.fbi.gov and he submitted a tip to the fbi about his dad. he told them that his dad was planning to do some things violent, that his dad was not only calling for there to be violence against government officials, the son told the fbi when he submitted that online tip that he believed his plan, his dad was actually planning to do something violent himself he told the fbi his father was planning to quot that was christmas eve 2020. when that young man submitted that tip to0. the fbi. i didn t hear back initially. it took a couple of weeks. it took until after the january 6th 2021 attack on the u.s. capitol building, then the fbi decided.s that maybe that tip deserved some follow-up. by the time the fbi got in touch with the son, the son s father had not only trav

Transcripts for MSNBC Way Too Early With Jonathan Lemire 20240604 09:33:00

about whether or not that was, what the motivation for him not wanting to get in the car was, whether it was not going to be seen going away from the capitol and sort of giving people that moment of the vice president fleeing the capitol, or whether it was because they thought they were going to whisk him off somewhere, i think that is something that will be important to hear in those segments as to that underlying issue. you ve also got some new reporting on the justice department, seeking to add terrorism-related charges to one of the capitol rioters sentences. this is the first case regarding january 6th to go to trial. tell us what this means and how could it impact future insurrection-related cases. sure. so domestic terrorism isn t a stand alone charge, in the united states, so what we have here is the way these things are usually handled, after the fact, after they ve already been prosecuted or after there has been a conviction in this case by a jury, prosecutors can file fo

Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 12:07:00

he is the first defendant to actually, that the government wants to label as an act of domestic terrorism. and triggered this sentencing enhancement. which will actually, really bump up the number of years he will spend behind bars. it s a cudgel and a lot of the situations. it really brings up the number of months that you are exposed to, years that you re exposed to, when you actually come time for your sentencing. we ll find out on august 1st. there are still a hundreds of alleged insurrectionists at large, kevin downie junior, right wing comedian, who i believe appeared on america s got talent. what can you tell us about, i guess what we call, a man hunt for the insurrectionists? that are still this is an individual, i remember. he s one of the highest profile individuals, also pretty low level cases will get to eventually. the government the fbi has a

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